Libs, get a clue.It isn't Whites or racism holding Blacks down.

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol, the 'right' cares so much about the poor in this country they want to take away their welfare and their minimum wage...

    fast food places are already advertizing their low pay as a benefit, as then they can sell 99 cent burgers and the employees qualify for food stamps, the tax payers are footing the bill for those 99 cent burgers

    btw, what jobs do you think people would no longer slave 40 hours a week for if we got rid of the safety nets? who will do those slave wage jobs for less then they get now?

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  2. teeko

    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    Maybe I should start out with the fact that my parents grew up dirt poor. They didn't even have enough food to eat. They both came from large families. Dad had 7 brothers and sisters. Mom had 5 brothers and sisters. My dad worked hard to make his kids lives a lot better then his own.
     
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    Sounds like the basis for a nice Christmas movie.

    [video=youtube;y2N6Bz77jZk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2N6Bz77jZk[/video]
     
  4. teeko

    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    The Waltons were not dirt poor. My parents grew up in the depression.
     
  5. Johnny-C

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    Exactly!! The main reason I've slowly weened myself off of Walmart and other things like it.

    What amazed me, was the consumer activism I've practiced isn't that hard; alternatives abound in America.

    I've essentially DROPPED the following from my list of preferred companies I will purchase from:

    Walmart
    Chic-fil-A
    Pizza Hut
    Papa Johns


    And if I hear another JERK 'executive' refer to employees in any manner that disregards their plight or dehumanizes workers... I'll search for an alternative to their business as well.

    The point is this:

    These days, the word of one's 'agenda' gets out and spreads as quickly as anything. If a business does not care about their WORKERS and people's reasonable rights, then it looks to me as though they care about America itself even less. They won't get my money.
     
  6. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah the Republican who fought for Civil Rights for decades against the Democrats who opposed.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Where was all this "privilege" I and my family seem to have missed out on it.

    Slavery existed in Africa long before Europeans arrived and still exit today.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    Is that the height of your intellectual responses?
     
  9. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you look at the statistics today of White on Black and Black on White crime. Most of it is Blacks on Whites. I can look it up and prove it if anyone doubts it. Why the big change? Is it racism? Yes, some of it is. But most I would guess is because of how they were razed. Kids growing up without a father, getting into trouble. I think I posted on the first page the number of people in prison who came from broken homes. So should we use that as an excuse why a White person turned out not making it? Liberals and Blacks have been so brain washed as to why things are like they are today. Notice not one on here has admitted that broken homes is even part of the problem. It's always slavery, racism and what happened to their grandfather or great grandfather. None will admit that Blacks have all kinds of advantages they never had before.
     
  10. banchie

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    No, religion is its own worse enemy, no one has to make what is already bad, worse. lol!

    Well sure we expect people help themselves, look how successful wallstreet & banks are at helping themselves to a better life, so much so, we need government to fulfill workers and unemployed workers needs. Redistribution occurs all the time, wallstreet is experts at it!! Romney redistributed factorys to china, and made a lot of wealth doing it. Don't wrry, we are ont he same page here.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    Romney made his money buying failing American companies and turning them around and keeping them here and establishing new ones here. I'll be off to Guitar Center later today.
     
  12. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's another big lie the Left has told over and over. Romney never shipped jobs over seas while ahead of his company.

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    Summary

    A new ad from the Obama campaign takes aim at Mitt Romney’s performance as governor of Massachusetts, claiming he had “one of the worst economic records in the country.” But the ad overreaches with several of its claims.
    ◾The ad states that job creation in Massachusetts “fell” to 47th under Romney. That’s a bit misleading. Massachusetts’ state ranking for job growth went from 50th the year before he took office, to 28th in his final year. It was 47th for the whole of his four-year tenure, but it was improving, not declining, when he left.
    ◾The ad’s claim that Romney “cut taxes for millionaires” isn’t as black-and-white as billed. Romney opposed a plan to impose a capital gains tax retroactively, insisting on delaying the hike eight months. That’s different than pushing for a tax cut.
    ◾The ad claims that Romney raised taxes on the middle class. It’s true that Romney imposed a number of fees, but none of them targeted middle-income persons. Also, Romney proposed cutting the state income tax three times — a measure that would have resulted in tax cuts for all taxpayers — but he was rebuffed every time by the state’s Democratic Legislature.
    ◾The ad claims Romney “left the state $2.6 billion deeper in debt.” It’s true that long-term bond debt — used for capital improvements — rose under Romney, as it had in the years before he took office. But Romney wasn’t piling up yearly deficits to support operating expenses the way the federal government is, because Massachusetts requires balanced budgets.
    ◾The ad claims that when Romney was governor, “Massachusetts lost 40,000 manufacturing jobs, a rate twice the national average.” That’s close to true, but the state lost a greater number of manufacturing jobs in the four years before Romney took office, and more in the four years after he left. In fact, the rate of job loss in manufacturing slowed during Romney’s time as governor.
    ◾The ad claims Romney “outsourced call center jobs to India.” Not exactly. What he did was veto a measure that would have prevented the state from doing business with a state contractor that was locating state customer-service calls in India. Democrats who controlled the Legislature could have overridden the veto, but didn’t. The veto was supported by leading newspapers as a savings to taxpayers.


    Fact check

    Summary

    Obama accuses Romney in a series of TV ads of being a “corporate raider” who “shipped jobs to China and Mexico,” asking if voters want to elect an “outsourcer in chief.” But some of the claims in the ads are untrue, and others are thinly supported.

    Bain Capital, the venture capital firm founded by Romney in 1984, is the focus of the Obama campaign’s attacks. There is no question that Bain invested in some companies that helped other companies outsource work and that some of that work went overseas. That was the core business for Modus Media and SMTC Corp. — two outsource companies featured in a June 21 article in the Washington Post that has been the basis of recent Obama TV ads. Bain also invested in U.S.-based companies that sold goods manufactured here and abroad, and some of those companies closed U.S. facilities and eliminated U.S. jobs.

    But after reviewing numerous corporate filings with the Securities and Exchange
    Commission, contemporary news accounts, company histories and press releases, and the
    evidence offered by both the Obama and Romney campaigns, we found no evidence to support the claim that Romney — while he was still running Bain Capital — shipped American jobs overseas.


    http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-outsourcer-overreach/
     
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    About as much as I need on this forum.
     
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    Well, hope Santa is bringing you a new 12 String!!! I have about 6 guitars, one (Gibson sunburst 6 string) I packed out of nam with me.

    Looks like some false info going on here.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...obs-overseas/2012/06/21/gJQAsD9ptV_story.html

    Romney, when he was in charge of Bain, invested heavily in a Chinese manufacturing company that depended on US outsourcing for its profits—and that explicitly stated that such outsourcing was crucial to its success.
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/bain-capital-mitt-romney-outsourcing-china-global-tech
     
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    Sigh! We know the Left's dreary little routine. Disagree with the liberal's guilt or blame game? "Racist! Hater!" Blah, blah, puke, :puke:
     
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    The oft used preemptive argument of Limbaugh logicians.
     
  17. Marine1

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    Well I think I put proof up that Romney didn't ship jobs over seas and all the other lies said about him. But with Obama's record of telling the truth, is it any wonder the Left believes everything he says.
     
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    Were they white? He got the job they wouldn't give to blacks. I rest my case.........................
     
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    Ain't that interesting, because there are about a million articles saying a different version. lol

    Romney’s Bain Capital invested in companies that moved jobs overseas
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...obs-overseas/2012/06/21/gJQAsD9ptV_story.html

    Romney, when he was in charge of Bain, invested heavily in a Chinese manufacturing company that depended on US outsourcing for its profits—and that explicitly stated that such outsourcing was crucial to its success.
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/bain-capital-mitt-romney-outsourcing-china-global-tech
     
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    My dad had a 8th grade education. went into the Navy when he was 19. learned a trade. I think you could do this black or white.
     
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    I appreciate the photo, thank you, and your story is interesting. However, for all your family had it bad at times black families had far worse for generations. So its time you stopped blaming them and started aprreciating them.
     
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    LOL, not even most Africans spent generations in slavery. Most of them lived in their tribal lands and were not held on cotton farms.


    Yeah so now you agree with me, thank you at least for that.


    Thats just right wing propaganda nonsense, you resent them because they dont vote republican. Neither do many urban working class people, yet you blame them as black people - which is an unnecessarily racial.
     
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    Nah, there has always been a racist problem in the service.

    During World War II, most African American soldiers still served only as truck drivers and as stevedores (except for some separate tank battalions and Army Air Forces escort fighters).[27] In the midst of the Battle of the Bulge in December 1944, General Eisenhower was severely short of replacement troops for existing military units which were totally white in composition.

    We had it in nam as well, and got worse towards 1972. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans
     
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    That's odd because my dads Navy buddy Lou was black and he and my dad both learned how to be electricians.
     
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    Theres nothing bigoted at all in my statement. Thats the usual right wing trick of simply answering criticisms of racial prejudice by saying nuh uh you are. The blacks in your community had a much harsher history than your white community and therefore benefited more from the opportunities given them that your white community already had and had enjoyed for much longer.

    You may whine that your family and community were just as poor, but that was your fault, no one else's as your people were not deliberately held back. Today white people have a much longer and wider history and experience of middle class professions. Therefore theyre are going to be much more people able to continue reaching these professions.

    And black people arent beating on you anymore than the working class are, thats just the usual racially based right wing attack, swiftly followed by some crap about me being racist instead for defending them.
     
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