Men - What do you propose to do to effectively reduce the abortion rate?

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    If abstinence worked there would BE no "unwanted pregnancies"

    The failure is in how to get those who are not using it to use it.
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Why would they abstain? It will never happen to them (they think) and if it does they can just legally commit a homicide and kill it.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    People won't abstain because no one is going to forgo a sex life just to placate some pro lifers.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Train women to respect themselves and to understand that men have a genetic disposition for a strong sexual urge. Women used to know this and used it to good advantage......Now they are lost.
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Train women? Women must be trained now eh?

    Interesting that you would use that choice of word.

    And yes. Let's just ignore 'training' men to control their sexual urges and to also respect themselves and women. :roll:

    Also you'd be surprised. Some women have pretty high sexual urges as well.
     
  6. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Train"? LOL. I don't know a guy who would be dumb enough to try and "train" a guy not to get horny, and from my experience, women are 10 times hornier than men. Yes, women are the ones who get pregnant, but men are the ones who control the process. It's like a bomb. C4 is just play dough without something to trigger it. Women have been driving as long as men in America, yet the 50 times a month I get cut off is 100% of the time one of them. They were handed control of procreation 40-50 years ago and people wonder why it has gone to (*)(*)(*)(*)? You can't tell others to be responsible. You can only dictate your own part in the equation. Men need to take the procreation responsibility back and all will be righted in a decade. Don't shoot in them unless you want to hand them the keys to your life. Abortion? (*)(*)(*)(*). She doing you a favor compared to what she could do to you.
     
  7. Bowerbird

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    Does it feel good back there in '55? That is 1755 not 1955 because that is where that concept originated and where it belongs

    TRAIN women??

    Okay - I want you to try this out, but I warn you it could be dangerous - write that on a sandwich board and walk down any street in the Western World. Awaits sounds of ambulance sirens.............

    But insults aside - that is YOUR insult to half of humanity - you answer appears to be to forgive men their "natural" high sex drive and make them not responsible for contraception while blaming women for not being solely responsible both for themselves and the poor men who cannot control themselves
     
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    What a pathetic misogynist? Maybe it is you who needs training, intellectually that is.
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, it's obvious from all the posts that men just can't handle any responsibility for preventing abortions. Responses to the question all boil down to: women have to stop men from having sex since men can't stop themselves.
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF are you talking about? Do only men who say such things qualify as men to you? Maybe THAT is your problem...Quit spreading your legs for (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s.
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The lesson here is we all can't change the opposite sex. I will do my best to eliminate creepy self-centered dudes from the planet. You all do your part to keep women from thinking they are the sexiest guys on earth. Every (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) dude I know has 10 chicks drooling over him. I wonder why they are how they are? Duh.
     
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    Does this thing actually exist?

    I must ask: how do you have sex with that thing across your dick?

    How do you even fit it into your pants?
     
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    When you get cold, does it fall off? :laughing:
     
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    Sorry, I didn't mean 'train' women......I should have said 'retrain' women. In the feminist zeal for equality, they have made women think they can be just like men.
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Just like men...meaning what? That we all want penises, testicles and flat chests?
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep , if a man is going to 'dip it' in the 'baby-making place' he is better off getting and making a commitment and then HOPE she doesn't kill the result. Oh...and don't count on the 'raincoat' or the promise from her that she has taken her contraceptive, or even that those measures will work.

    Also men need to be aware that nowadays, there are women who will even kill their older kids...More than 200 women kill their children in the US every year.

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/14935/why_some_mothers_kill_their_children.html
     
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    This is very true. And I honestly believe a lot of it has to do with the rise of C-Sections here in the United States. When a woman gives birth completely naturally it releases oxytocin into her body which is a 'bonding hormone' if you will.

    http://thebabybond.com/BondingMatters.html

    In fact postpartum depression is much higher for women who have C-sections than for women who gave birth naturally. http://worry-free-c-section.com/blog/319/postpartum-depression-after-a-c-section/

    There is a whole chemical process a woman must go through during her labor, childbirth and even breastfeeding to make those maternal instincts kick in.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No doubt some wish for that but, the general feminist dogma is that women can 'have it all' a career, a husband, a family, be a homemaker, a mother, be the breadwinner etc.

    Lost in all of that high-minded liberal thinking is responsibility. The general thinking is that women can have a career, get married, have children and drop them off at daycare to be raised by someone else. That is irresponsible.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, I basically agree with the article. Men and women both have a responsibility to make a commitment to be responsible for the result of their sexual actions that have the ability to produce offspring.
     
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    I don't know where the article said parents must be "responsible for the result of their sexual actions that have the ability to produce offspring."

    What the article discusses is the chemical reactions of bonding with newborns. :neutral:

    What I showed here is a possible reason for why women are responsible for about 50% of all parental murders.

    Also just in case you missed it, I am still curious as to what you meant by this post. http://www.politicalforum.com/4651146-post115.html
     
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    Women, when committing an act of violence, are not typically reported. It is usually against a man, and a man just takes it. Remember, stats are only as good as those who report. Not to mention, a woman can destroy your life in a plethora of ways. They have all of society and the system at their disposal. "Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn" didn't just spring up out of nowhere. Men aren't as sneaky of creatures by large. They either hate or love. Are enemies or friends. Women are such emotional/complex creatures they can love who they are hurting and help who they hate. The thing that really sucks is they actually believe what comes out of one's mouth is more important than one's actions. However, when dealing with another their actions effect you more than their words. So a man can't even read a book by a woman, about women, and learn anything, as to we are concerned it is all BS. Why they can hug another woman and then whisper to you, "God I hate her". Why they can sleep with your best friend and not understand why you're so upset, because when she told you she only loved you, she meant it. Their belief system is truly that to which they whispered to you, but if you plan on those whispers you will always be left to dry by their scheming. I don't know what to tell guys who insist on having one around, or more than one night stands, if you will. Just guess what her future actions will be based upon prior, and try not to plan based upon anything that comes out of her mouth. Remember their actions are often different from their words, satisfy her words with your words and her actions with your actions. Trying to satisfy their words with actions will often garner the opposite of desired results. Sorry to go off topic so bad.
     
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    They are actually a treatment for incontinence but since there is no real male equivalent of a chastity belt and I could not find a picture of "tie it in a knot" I thought that might do:-D
     
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    But even "retraining" term is offensive to at least half of humanity - it equates us with dogs, and female dogs at that

    Why must we Train/retrain women while ignoring the role of men in procreation? Surely they too are at least 50% responsible?

    As for the rest - even the most repressive Muslim society has a better view of women that THAT!!
     
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    Nice attempt at deflection there

    More children are killed each year by motor vehicle accidents and guns
     
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    Which makes it just fine to kill them through premeditated homicide abortion, right?
     

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