MOST Americans open to alternative explanations to 9/11

The 9/11 Commission Report is truthful. Very simple.

Want to consult Rachael Maddow?

 

"Skeptical"...we know they were accredited pilots and trained in flight simulators. Again, they weren't concerned with flying safely, landing a plane or upsetting the passengers. They were flying to crash.

"Precise patterns"...how was there flight plan precise? Hijack a plan, follow the map, crash the plane. Am I missing something?

The building did not fall down due to fire alone. There was some structural damage to columns and floor hangers due to the crash. The fire burned hot enough to compromise the strength of the steel (due to fireproofing being knocked off the steel at impact). Once that section of the building was no longer able to support the weight above, the upper floors collapsed downward. The floors below were not able to stop the momentum of the crashing floors.

Which is exactly what we saw in the videos.

NO, WRONG. Again, its was collapse due to structural failure. The debris from the collapsing North Tower scooped out a lower corner of the building. The investigation has determined one critical column, column 79 failed and that failure started the buildings collapse.

Science, it works. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es.

 

Nah, Rachael is a corporate player too, and she has to bow to certain powers. I don't hold it against her though.

The report, is a 575 page LIE. People CHOOSE to believe what they're 'comfortable' with, while others propagate lies for a living, while others still, are just plain ignorant.

 

That's right....everyone who might have a different opinion from you, is on the take. How honest are you?

 

So she's one of the 'stupid, lazy and ignorant' that you claim play the 'corporate games'?
Your words.

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Oh, I see - so Ms. Maddow propagates lies for a living. Interesting take, can't say I agree with you, though. Say, is David Ray lying when he says the report is 571 pages, since you say it's 575? How can you follow such an obvious liar?

 

Depends on who I'm dealing with.. I'm pretty honest, basically, I'd say, but if honesty can't be the basis for a conversation, I can play along. I look at facts, assess them, and form my conclusions based on what I discover along the way. How honest are you?

 

I'm honest - and it doesn't 'depend on who I'm dealing with'. That's a game for liars.

 

Ms. Maddow is much better than MOST of the prepaid media puppets but, she's far from perfect. I think if I had the chance to sit down with her, and present the facts, and the obvious distortions of the truth of 9/11, she would be open minded enough to consider it, I think, and yes, she propagates for a living. She HAS to, to a certain degree. We ALL do. Like everybody on this earth, she's wrong on some issues as well. That being said, she doesn't 'propagate' in the same manner that the more obvious shills do. The right wing hates her so, she must be doing something right.

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IMO, you are NOT. The 'in between flights' thing is just ONE, easy and simple to understand example of it. I'm honest with anybody who is honest with me. No more, no less.

 

I don't think you are. You have lied about perpetuating the "no-plane" bull(*)(*)(*)(*), you have lied about the scientific facts regarding the events of 9/11. Fact is, you really have no desire to learn the truth about what happened on 9/11....you just want your opinion validated.

 

I admire Ms. Maddow, she's one of my favorites.

I never said I hang out in airports: you made that up. Just like you've never been married but your wife has been a nurse for many years... your dishonesty is on record.

 

Nonsense. Now you're merely perpetuating the propaganda.

 

"IN BETWEEN FLIGHTS" was the response you provided when I asked why you were seemingly available 24/7, and you refuse to acknowledge it. You muddy the picture very well, and I can see why you're kept on.

On a side note, it sickens me to hear (supposedly) that Ms. Maddow is one of your 'favorites'. UGH.

 

It's a fact: you constantly and consistently link to no-planes sites.

By the way, why do you do that?

Also - back to topic: Do you feel the poll you linked to in the OP is absolutely honest, given its parameters?

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That never happened. `

 

I disagree that this is necessarily all that positive a statement. 9/11 was the most obvious example of a false flag attack in the entire recorded history of mankind. It topped even the burning of the Reichstag. Given the mountain of evidence unanimously pointing towards the US and Israel as culprits, isn't it strange how, twelve years later, Americans are merely "open to alternative explanations", rather than fighting the political establishment (and its financiers) in the streets with weapons for the freedom they claim to hold so dear?

 

Thank you for finally answering the referenced words. That's 'something' I guess. Yes, it DID happen, and hence, by your denial of same, I cannot carry on an HONEST conversation with you, so I don't even try. I hope you get the drift (not really, but, you get the idea).

 

American people are slow to take 'uncomfortable' positions on truth but, not all. Slow progress is better than no progress, I guess. Thinking for yourself, isn't one of our strong points. We like being BSed to death so, it's easier to 'let somebody else' do the math. I'd wager that many people don't even know what a 'false flag' is, and some people STILL think JFK's assassination was the act of ONE MAN. People are stupid, I guess.

 

There is no proof that 9/11 was a false flag. NONE. That's just a nutter assertion made without credible proof.

 

No it didn't, but you've made your excuse to run away, we know.

 

Yeah, I heard someone still peddling the magic bullet theory just the other day. One round apparently causing seven different wounds spread between two different people. And the other guy has always maintained he was shot after Kennedy.

Just look at America and look at what has happened to pretty much everybody that has ever tried to change things for the better of the common people. Every one of them has been assassinated, from Kennedy to King, from Malcolm X to John Lennon.

 

I don't think that's necessarily true. The only explanation which fits all of the available evidence is a US/Israeli false flag operation. Therefore, a proof can be offered on the basis of the elimination of the other possibilities. Indeed, the lack of direct proof is itself arguably a product of these people lying to prevent themselves being considered as suspects.

 

I agree. The problem with a new investigation however is who is going to do it? It is really nutty to have the government investigate themselves. They were going to let Henry Kissinger be a 9/11 Commissioner. lol. Allen Dulles was on the Warren Commission. lol.

 

These people have effectively gotten away with murdering 3,000 Americans and you can bet your ass that if there ever was any direct evidence linking them to the crime, then it's been destroyed. I think those still calling for a new investigation now are deluding themselves. The American people themselves have permitted these criminals to get away with it, and so we have to ask ourselves why this is the case. It is their responsibility to hold government to account in situations precisely like these.

Firstly, the government (or more precisely, the sources which fund it) are permitted to hold a monopoly on public information. There are only six news organisations providing 98 percent of the information in America, and, aside from being owned by people who have a vested interest in the public thinking certain things, are also dependent on government and high-level corporate sources for their news content. Quite simply, the reality which is portrayed by the mainstream US media is a false reality. It is what happens to reality when you twist and omit all the necessary facts to make the US appear to always be right.

Secondly, even those of us fortunate enough to still be able to think critically, and who have benefited from that small window (and even now it is closing) in which we have been able to access alternative sources, are afraid of taking action. And the reason we are afraid is because of the second monopoly the government has which is organised force. The combination of disinformation for the masses and force for the revolutionaries has been the public relations strategy of the autocrats running America since at least the 1930s. Since people like Bernays and Lippmann taught them that the manipulation of consent is a better general method of control than outright fear. Willing slaves are always better to have than non-willing ones.

So anyway, information and, where necessary, force, is how dissent is controlled in America. This is how the powers-that-be got away with 9/11. Effectively because they were the same people the media was approaching for information in the wake of the attacks. People like Bernard Kerik and L. Paul Bremer. Their propaganda strategy upon the American people afterwards was so effective that no further action became necessary. They are off enjoying themselves a decade later while the public is still squabbling over the various inconsistencies with their story (such as the laws of physics).

The truly sad thing is because the effect of propaganda is quite obviously accumulative upon a population (i.e. the more you deviate from reality the longer you are influenced by it), then most human brains outright reject the challenge to their belief system without assessing the very real evidence which discredits it. Once you start unravelling the ball of wool it can be almost a matrix effect if you've spent your entire life in the shadow of American propaganda. Most people just will not permit themselves to face that, so they carry on with their jingoism and rejection of all ideas which ever show their leaders to have committed any type of crime.

 

Why hasn't ANY of the Twoofer funds, who have raised millions, spent any money on an actual investigation? I'll tell you why....they know their nutter ideas will be debunked...meaning the end of the cash stream from Nutter sheep.

You do know someone from the sane side has personally spent money to validate the Jones/Harrit paper and found their claims of themite/thermate (nano or otherwise) to be bogus.

 

Excellent post, Sir.

 

Because the Liars control the information. See the excellent post just prior to yours.