My dislike for homosexuality has nothing to do with religion

Nonsense? Are you paying attention? They ALREADY have an absurdly high rate of child molestation and right now they have to wait for an opportune moment to abuse a child. Now, because of people like you, they will be allowed to adopt children and have unfettered access to those children at all times and with no one to interfere with them. When these adopted children of homosexuals start coming out in droves talking about their sexual abuse as children... I hope your conscience can bear it... actually I hope it can't.

And if you think my interpretations are incorrect... by all means tell me why. And I think I've made it clear... they should have as little access to children as possible and certainly not be allowed to marry and receive full and unfettered access to children.

 

If this were as bad as you say (relatively speaking), it would have surely been top-shelf news... by now.

I get the stark impression that you wish to promote homophobic thinking, via the things you are sharing. You've made nothing to appear valid, clear or realistic, in my opinion. I know of no credible experts which support the conclusions you reach in this forum. (I'll keep my eyes/ears open.)

That is, what you're sharing here is spin, in my view.

Again, IF what you say is true (which I have reason to doubt), then WHAT should be done about it?

 

Then show me how I'm wrong. Also... it's not top shelf news because homosexuals and their proponents are liberals (as a group) and the mainstream media is also liberal (most of them). This argument does not fit their agenda, therefore they will not promote it.

 

There is no logical reason to hate gay people.

If you do, you're an emotion-driven Neanderthal.

 

YOU came in here with the homophobic, extreme, crazy and unusual claims... YOU continue to prove yourself valid.

I'm not buying your bigoted BS.

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Pretty much.

 

I ALREADY did back up my position lol. You basically just said you don't like what the numbers indicate so you refuse to accept them. I don't really care if you don't like what they say or not. Either show me how the numbers I provided are incorrect or stop talking.

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I've already backed up my position and provided sources for them. Your turn.

 

I did a search in your linked report.
No mention of homo or gay.

 

Uhhhh no it's a male that has sex with another male... what do you call that?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homosexuality?s=t

Homosexuality: sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one's own sex.

 

All you did was present some data; your conclusion is an unfounded JOKE.

 

and what do they call someone who prefers sex with someone under 18?

 

Right, he essentially jumped to a conclusion; then used it as a soap-box to spew homophobic thinking.

It's a joke.

 

Well if it's a male that wants to have sex with a female under 18, he's a heterosexual child molester.

If it's a male that wants to have sex with a male under 18, he's a homosexual child molester.

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On what grounds are my conclusions incorrect.

By all means, I'd love to hear it.

 

Here is something to consider:

Unless one can explain-away the above, I don't see how claims that homosexual parenting is somehow significantly worse for children are truly valid.

 

I've seen nothing coming from any expert making the type of claims you are making.

What you're putting out here isn't credible; I don't care how many lines from studies you interpret in some 'dubious' fashion.

 

He explains it in his own article:

"In an interview with BU Today, Siegel acknowledges the limits of all this research: none of the studies has been a randomized, controlled trial and all studies of gay parenting are necessarily small, since there aren’t many gay parents."

What part of that do you not understand?

Not to mention, the statistics from EVERY CRIMINAL REPORT regarding child molestation this country has ever had, has shown that males having sex with underage males is a severe problem. I don't really care if you or that homosexual author likes that or not.

 

I understand things well enough, to know that your conclusions aren't credible.

Now, you can keep talking to yourself about what you think is 'real'... but I'm done wasting time with you here.

 

I was headed that direction.
What % of gays are pedos? What % of heteros are pedos?

He is trying to imply, if you're gay, you're automatically a pedo. Such ignorance in this world.

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Those are the 2 categories you need to compare.
Not the BS you jumped to conclusions about.

 

No I think what you mean is that you refuse to accept anything contrary to what you believe because you don't like the implications.

A study in the Journal of Sex Research found, as we have noted above, that "approximately one-third of [child sex offenders] had victimized boys and two-thirds had victimized girls." The authors then make a prescient observation: "Interestingly, this ratio differs substantially from the ratio of gynephiles (men who erotically prefer physically mature females) to androphiles (men who erotically prefer physically mature males), which is at least 20 to 1."[17]

In other words, although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses.

Similarly, the Archives of Sexual Behavior also noted that homosexual pedophiles are significantly overrepresented in child sex offence cases:

The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2 to 4 percent of men attracted to adults prefer men (ACSF Investigators, 1992; Billy et al.,1993; Fay et al.,1989; Johnson et al.,1992); in contrast, around 25 to 40 percent of men attracted to children prefer boys (Blanchard et al.,1999; Gebhard et al.,1965; Mohr et al.,1964). Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 6 to 20 times higher among pedophiles."[18]
The stark imbalance between homosexual and heterosexual child molestationswas confirmed in the Archives of Sexual Behavior study itself, which divided 260 pedophile participants into three groups: "152 heterosexual pedophiles (men with offenses or self-reported attractions involving girls only), 43 bisexual pedophiles (boys and girls), and 65 homosexual pedophiles (boys only)."[19] In other words, 25 percent of the offenders were homosexual pedophiles--or 41 percent if those who molest girls as well as boys are included.

Other studies report an unusually high percentage of child molestations by homosexual pedophiles:

· A study on pedophilia in the Psychiatric Journal of the University of Ottawa reported: "According to the literature, findings of a two-to-one ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles have been documented."[20]

· The Journal of Sex Research reports a study that included "199 offenders against female children and 96 offenders against male children. . . . This would indicate a proportional prevalence of 32 percent of homosexual offenders against children."[21]

· A study of male child sex offenders in Child Abuse and Neglect found that fourteen percent targeted only males, and a further 28 percent chose males as well as females as victims, thus indicating that 42 percent of male pedophiles engaged in homosexual molestation.[22]

18. Ray Blanchard, et al., "Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles," Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (2000): 464.
19. Ibid., p. 471.
20. John M. W. Bradford, et al., "The Heterogeneity/Homogeneity of Pedophilia," Psychiatric Journal of the University of Ottawa 13 (198: 225. Elsewhere the study notes: "Researchers have variously estimated the incidence of homosexual pedophilia between 19 percent and 33 percent of reported molestations," p. 218.
21. Freund, "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," p. 197.
22. Michele Elliott, "Child Sexual Abuse Prevention: What Offenders Tell Us," Child Abuse and Neglect 19 (1995): 581.

“Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for our culture,” wrote Steve Baldwin in, “Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement,” soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review.

“It is difficult to convey the dark side of the homosexual culture without appearing harsh,” wrote Baldwin. “However, it is time to acknowledge that homosexual behavior threatens the foundation of Western civilization..."

A study detailed in Baldwin’s report found that most pedophiles even consider themselves to be “gay.” According to the study, “Archives of Sexual Behavior,” some 86 percent of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.

"also written for the Regent University Law Review – Reisman cited psychologist Eugene Abel, whose research found that homosexuals “sexually molest young boys with an incidence that is occurring from five times greater than the molestation of girls."


Abel also found that non-incarcerated “child molesters admitted from 23.4 to 281.7 acts per offender … whose targets were males.”


“The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering,” said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and violence. “Abel’s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls.”

The Journal of Homosexuality recently published a special double-issue entitled, “Male Intergenerational Intimacy,” containing many articles portraying sex between men and minor boys as loving relationships. One article said parents should look upon the pedophile who loves their son “not as a rival or competitor, not as a theft of their property, but as a partner in the boy’s upbringing, someone to be welcomed into their home.”

In 1995 the homosexual magazine “Guide” said, “We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual” and “deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose. …” The article went on to say: “Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children’s sexuality … we must do it for the children’s sake.”

Larry Kramer, the founder of ACT-UP, a noted homosexual activist group, wrote in his book, “Report from the Holocaust: The Making of an AIDS Activist”: “In those instances where children do have sex with their homosexual elders, be they teachers or anyone else, I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it.”

Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old.

A (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children prefer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 620 times higher among pedophiles."

A 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that". . . all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories" for sexual activity;' These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old.

Another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality . . . Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%."

A 1989 study in the Journal of Sex Research noted that " . . . the proportion of sex offenders against male children among homosexual men is substantially larger than the proportion of sex offenders against female children among heterosexual men . . . the development of pedophilia is more closely linked with homosexuality than with heterosexuality."

A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.

Homosexual activists Karla Jay and I Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay Report that 73% of all homosexuals I have acted as "chicken hawks" — that is, they have preyed on adolescent or younger boys.

A study by sex researchers Alan Bell and Martin Weinberg found that 25% of white
homosexual men have had sex with boys sixteen years and younger.

I could go on if you'd like me to.

Oh but i forgot... you have an easy fix for that... if they're molesting children then you just don't call them homosexuals. It's funny though... before you find out they were molesting children... you considered them homosexual.

 

More to consider.

 

First of all, I NEVER implied that if you are homosexual you are automatically a child molester. (learn the difference between a pedophile and a child molester.)

The point is that those who engage in homosexual behavior also engage in child molestation at FAR higher rates than their heterosexual counterparts. The numbers support my conclusion. I'm sorry you don't like that.

 

Again, about the largest study, so far.

 

Proof/link?
What you provided shows no correlation whatsoeva.
You just jumped to your own misguided conclusion. Out of ignorance.

 

Well, you need to pursue solutions available to you. I haven't seen/heard of the significance of this issue which concerns you so.

I suspect you are obsessing on the issue and certainly promoting homophobia in doing so.

 

I provided a source. If you disagree with my conclusion then tell me why. Don't just assert that "it's ignorant" and not back that up.

Was my math wrong? How was I incorrect?

 

That is EXACTLY what he has done.

I'm not buying the crap he's selling; that's for certain.