My dislike for homosexuality has nothing to do with religion

You may be unaware of this. . . but there is a HUGE difference between ANY KIND of pornography and signs of affection between two people! IF the PDA in a group of youths is acceptable in public, why should it be any different if some of those youths are gay. . .whether they are male or female homosexuals?

Some may actually wonder if it is not the fear of the "tingling" feeling watching those "PDA" that is disturbing to the homophobes!

 

Nonsense. He had them work in factories.

 

Or could homosexuality be a survival adaptation when a population becomes too dense ?

Lost above due to a spat is a question regarding reactions of
2 lovely ladies doing it as opposed to
2 handsome men doing it?
I enjoy the ladies YOU ?
Ref.: #91 above


Moi

 

That's understandable since the very place that homosexuality is wrong, is on a basic animal instinct/survival of the species level.

There is nothing else wrong with homosexuality. And you don't NEED religion to know that homosexuality is counter-intuitive and opposed to the Prime Directive mandated by evolution itself.

 

You have hit upon the one "blessing" of homosexuality at this point in history. It will undoubtedly reduce the population.

But it's kind of like depending on abortion to reduce the future number of liberal voters. It works, but what a lousy method to do it with.

You know moi, that's like thinking "Is global warming or cooling or WHATEVER!!!!! be nature's way of naturally evolving the third planet from a star if it's mass is over 'x' and it's within 'y' million miles of its sun. In other words, men have no choice but to build autos and big factories and overuse them because that is the way of the universe to heat or cool the third planet from a star........". Why not? And then it's the way of the universe to produce people who freak because they think the Arctic shouldn't disappear when actually that's the way it's intended.

 

Yes, except for the fact that I'm married and I should have higher motives, I have no trouble at all watching two women have sex with each other. Seeing two men kiss makes me laugh. I think, "who the hell do you two guys think you're fooling?" It starts with fooling themselves, I guess. Watching two men have sex is something I wouldn't do, period. ha ha. Yowch.

 

There was a scientific experiment where rats were allowed to populate a big cage without any restrictions on their birthrate. What eventually happened is they became too crowded, there was no place for females to next their young, and the rats turned to homosexuality. The birth rate plummeted, and even after their were enough places to nest, the rats did not become normal again and so the entire rat population died out.

And I think something like that is happening in Japan.

Homosexuality is low investment sex.

For a heterosexual man to have sex, he must woo a woman, and usually the woman insists on a permanent home for her and her children. And so a heterosexual man must strive for material success in order to keep his woman happy with him.

A homosexual has none of these problems. A homosexual never has to support more than himself, and so can take lower paying jobs and still survive.

So I think the unambitious and lazy will tend towards homosexuality simply because heterosexuality is too much an investment of their time and resources.

 

LOL......and that explains all of the welfare moms and deadbeat dads so well.......

I don't know about anyone else but I am hardwired to be attracted to women. I didn't have sex with women because I am particularly ambitious, but because I really, really like women.

Maybe Blackrook is different- maybe he thinks that if he was just lazier, he would be having sex with men.

But from all evidence I have seen- lazy straight men are still just lazy straight men.

Meanwhile, San Francisco is full of ambitious wealthy gay men, who own lovely homes and have kids.

 

If someone's actions affect you, then of course you will assert your interests. It's not a question of "rights." You don't "have a say." What you have is an interest, and free people defend their interests.

Now please explain how the unconcealed existence of a homosexual couple (such couples have always existed, but were concealed) has an effect on you. Your objection is not to the couple's existence. They were always there. Your objection is to their not living in fear. By what stretch of logic do you justify terrorizing millions of your fellow citizens so that they must live in hiding for fear of ruin?

Now you may say that the moral order is upset by homosexuals emerging from hiding. But as I explained in my first post, the moral order need not be intolerant to be effective. You are free to live as the law allows. Saying that no one can differ from you in any significant way without shredding the moral fabric of society is to confess doubts about that moral fabric. If it is so firmly founded in nature as orthodoxy holds, then surely tolerance of a few outliers could not possibly undermine it.

Like so many orthodoxies, the fervor with which exclusive heterosexuality is proclaimed betrays the anxiety of the faithful. If something is manifestly true, it need not be shouted. All that bluster by heterosexuals who feel threatened covers their fear that exclusive heterosexuality may not be so natural or so universal as they say.

 

Well then heterosexuals should hide their straightness.

Oops.

You just contradicted yourself.

 

But homosexuality is more common among the poor.

http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.e...ebaum-Gates-LGB-Poverty-Report-March-2009.pdf

 

So you think that if you were lazier you would have been cruising public parks for sex?

See, I am not ambivelant about my sexual attraction- I am openly and enthusiastically heterosexual- I love everything sexual about women.

If I was lazy I might never have married, maybe never even pursued a woman- but I still wouldn't be cruising the park looking for an easy lay.

Why do you think it would be different for you?

 

Most of Hitler's concentration camp inmates were put to work in factories, farms, road crews, etc. The rule at the camps was work or die.

Here is what Wikipedia has to say (see here) -

"Upon the rise of Adolf Hitler, gay men and, to a lesser extent, lesbians, were two of the numerous groups targeted by the Nazi Party and were ultimately among Holocaust victims. Beginning in 1933, gay organizations were banned, scholarly books about homosexuality, and sexuality in general, were burned, and homosexuals within the Nazi Party itself were murdered. The Gestapo compiled lists of homosexuals, who were compelled to sexually conform to the "German norm."

Would the Nazi model appeal to many Americans today?

 

I don't think it would be different for me, but I am seeing young people who are experimenting and I think its because the stigma of homosexuality is gone.

In the teenage years, one tends to be confused in one's own sexual identity and I think a boy can be seduced by a man at that age.

Girls are more likely to experiment than boys, because right now it appears there is no stigma at all against lesbianism. Even the most anti-gay of the straight boys think lesbianism is "hot."

Anyway, that's my take on it based on what I am seeing.

In my generation, the homosexuals were less obvious and I didn't even know who they were because I was so naive.

 

Lol, yet you started the thread with the title "My dislike for homosexuality has nothing to do with religion."

So YOU are indeed the topic of this thread. Your hatred. Your conventions. Your perspective.

The entire OP consists of a personal anecdotal recount of a situation that made you uncomfortable.

I would think that discussing anything but your repulsive and ignorant thoughts on the matter would be considered off topic since you provided us with a 1st person narrative.

 

"Experimenting..."??? Really?...I'm a Designer/Artist with gay friends...and there is no way you could talk me into or coerce me into experimenting...not at all. Experimenting is a myth. There are those who are open to both sexes but, you don't "decide" to be gay one day.

 

Now Moi, you know what you'll be watching for an eternity in hell, don't you?

You're entitled to your personal feelings so long as you don't express them by hurting others, either yourself or through law. You know what Ron Paul would say.

 

OMG, the vast majority of humans aren't going to "turn" homosexual.
One doesn't flip a freakin switch to have sex with what ever sex turns their crank at the time.
Think man, think.

 

I disagree. I think there are young people who experiment with their sexuality. Things are not so set in stone for young people as they are for people of my age or your age. We've made up our mind who we are and what we are and what we want to do. For young people, everything is in flux. The search for identity is part of growing up, and its what makes it so painful to be a teenager.

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No, homosexuality is far more common in crowded cities than in the country, and in Japan the young generation is losing interest in normal sex and marriage.

 

That is where CHOICE comes in. When you, as a homosexual, feel that tingle, deny it instead of go with it.

You are claiming that heteros feel the tingle and then deny it. If it's possible to deny it, then that means it's choice, hon.

Then again, (and this will save your butt) I don't think as many of us get that "tingle" as you think. And IF we do get that tingle it's likely because watching sex between two men REMINDS us at certain levels of having sex with a woman. But then at the conscious level, the act in front of us causes repugnance because it ISN'T a woman there, it's a man.

Personally, I don't remember ever feeling a tingle watching two men have sex.

Heterosexuals spend zero time validating and declaring to themselves or others that they are indeed, homosexual.
Why do homosexuals spend LOTS of time doing it?

 

How do you know what goes on in the SUBCONSCIOUS mind of others? You don't.
You don't even know what goes on in your OWN subconscious, by definition.

If homosexuality isn't a choice, then neither is bank robbing, and for the same reason.

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Emo goth? I don't know what that is, but it is certainly humorous.

 

When did you decide to be straight?

 

I was disturbed by my sexuality for all of about a month, for cultural reasons, and here we have Blackrook talking about "the search for identity..." and "the pain of teenage years". Should get him a hoodie.

I may have been too intelligent to have gone through what you are, Blackrook, but I am here for you all the same.

 

Reported and you are ignored.

 

Let me get this straight...A 30 YO having an intimate relationship with a teenager? I'd not allow that in my house no matter what the sexual preference. If I were you, I'd look him up on on the sexual offenders registry as well.

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