New York reveals its blood lust for baby killing

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  1. PeppermintTwist

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    You can see how pervasive "God's plan" is by looking in Christian inspirational literature. For example, if we look in the book A Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren, we find this remarkable paragraph in Chapter 2:
    Because God made you for a reason, he also decided when you would be born and how long you would live. He planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and death. The Bible says, "You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Every day was recorded in your book!" [Psalm 139:16]

    There is also this:
    Regardless of the circumstances of your birth or who your parents are, God had a plan in creating you.
    Under this view of the universe, God plans everything.

    Take a moment and think about what Rick Warren said. Rick said, "He planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and death." Let's examine one simple implication of this statement. What this means is that God has pre-planned every abortion that has taken place on our planet.

    If the concept of "God's plan" is true, you can first of all see that God wants us to be aborting children. Every single abortion is planned by God, so God must be doing it for a reason. Second, you can see that both the mother who requests the abortion and the doctor who performs it are blameless. Since it is God who planned the abortion of the child (God chose the "exact time" of the death, according to Rick Warren), the mother and doctor are simply puppets who are fulfilling God's plan, are they not?

    https://godisimaginary.com/i6.htm
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Never ceases to amaze me at the degree of cognitive dissonance that needs to be overcome in order to believe in what is patently absurd.

    It also demonstrates an unwillingness to take responsibility for their own actions and, more importantly, misdeeds. The attitude that it doesn't matter if I "sinned" because somehow I am always magically "forgiven".

    Critical thinkers need not apply!
     
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    Yet another ludicrous allegation that you won't be able to substantiate!
     
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    That is no different than before...."Life of Mother"
     
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    Prove it
     
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    That’s not the same. The prior NY law already covered abortion to protect the life of the mother. The current NY eugenics law allows the aborting of babies to the moment before live birth for many more reasons and removes protections for the life of a baby born alive after a failed late term abortion. Now they can leave him or her to die and discard to the garbage instead of being mandated to take all measures to save life in the event of a live birth.
     
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    Kill you viable about to be born "fetus" and get an "Atta boy" from Gov. Cuomo. Try to protect yourself and family from criminals and get hammered by Gov. Cuomo.
     
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    I read the text of the law.

    I oppose allowing abortion for convenience up to 24 weeks, but other than that... the law seems completely in line with other abortion laws. If the baby or mother can be harmed, they can terminate the pregnancy.

    I don't disagree with this, and though I am pro life have always supported a procedure to save a mother of required .
     
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    Disagree.

    If a carrying mother has a high probability of bringing the baby to term, I agree with terminating the pregnancy.
     
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    How about expecting people to be responsible for choices PRIOR to getting pregnant? Why isn't that option up there?

    According to you little chart, I guess it would also be acceptable to kill a 6 year old if a family falls on hard times? No?... why?
     
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    Up to 24 weeks out of convenience is far too long, deserving of ridicule.

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    It is a stupid article - full of ignorant uneducated language. It is an idiotic falsehood to defacto claim that single human cell = a baby.
     
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    Yep

    I agree I think the best way to prevent abortions is to stop all unwanted pregnancies.

    So all males should be mandated to visit a soerm bank and then undergo sterilisation. If they then want to procreate they must apply to the state to withdraw semen. The state would then determine who is fit to become a father
     
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    That is the cut off for viability and that is standard cut off point
     
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    This does not even make sense
     
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    This is not new that abortion laws are framed this way. Canada for instance has such a law. Now tell me, are women lining up to have late term abortions in Canada “just because they want to”?
     
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    Maybe you don't comprehend Cuomo's stance.
     
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    Just some information on the Canadian experience in relation to later term abortions

    Please note that in this paper they are referring to abortions performed after 20 weeks
    http://www.arcc-cdac.ca/postionpapers/22-Late-term-Abortions.PDF
     
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    Nope. That has nothing to do with viability.

    According to the law in New York, somebody can terminate a pregnancy at 23 weeks and 6 days simply out of convenience even if viability isn't the determining factor. I think that is too far along to not be called murder.

    Premature babies have survived out of the womb at 24 weeks.

    At that point, its murder.
     
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    And in how many countries with similar legislation is this a problem?

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-27/smocking-guild-sew-gowns-for-stillborn-babies/10750252

    Was this murder because they decided against futile effforts of resuscitation?
     
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    That is the basis of our morality? What other countries do? Have you not seen the atrocities around the world.
     

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