NFL Announces ‘Black National Anthem’ Will Be Performed at Super Bowl

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    You don't think Chauvin can see that Floyd was no longer a threat and struggling to breathe? Floyd was alone and didn't have an angry mob of thousands with him. Why do you give Chauvin a pass dealing with one subdued individual but not the Capitol cop who had thousands of angry people behind Babbit wanting to come through the chamber glass?
     
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    Whatever Chauvin did wasn’t done with the intent to kill, he was trying to make an arrest and subdue a suspect. The capitol cop shot a person in the neck, that is intent to kill.
     
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    Intent to kill a threat, and was found a justified kill by a court of law. Y'all pretend that part doesn't exist.
     
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    Someone always has it better, and worse. That is the nature of life.

    Yes, I saw your response.
     
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    Umm...if you're talking about the capitol cop...there was no court of law. They just decided not to charge him with anything.
     
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    I'm sure anybody paying attention can see who controls the media. The one you can't criticize.

    Imagine how how long iWould last if I went around saying white Jewish Europeans had it good in Auschwitz because at least they were fed, it was better than the ghettos in many ways
     
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    Doesn't matter as this is again another year I don't watch it.
     
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    No. A Judge reviewed the shooting and ruled that it was a justified and good shoot.
     
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    Just because something is divisive doesn't necessarily mean you should stop doing it. I'm pretty sure ending slavery was divisive.
     
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    Translation... in your estimation, no only black folks get their own national anthem.... Got it. Neo-segregation in your lifetime, huh?? LOL
     
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    So, are you saying we are not one country, but a collection of tribes that all must be catered to?
     
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    Judges do not review anything unless a criminal charge is charged against someone. There was no charge. LINK: District of Columbia | Department of Justice Closes Investigation into the Death of Ashli Babbitt | United States Department of Justice

     
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    Meanwhile, back on the thread topic....

    In something as flagrantly "in-your-face" as this "Black national anthem" is intended to be, it's really just simple, special-interest identity-politics!

    All political factions do this kind of thing if they get the opportunity, and the staging of a "Black national anthem" is really little more than 'guerrilla-theater', designed to focus the attention of everyone in the audience on Black-this, Black-that, Black-everything else, while it encourages the sentiment that a Black American minority which makes up less than 14% of the nation's population must somehow command a larger-than-life percentage of everyone's special concern and attention.

    It is a focus not lavished on any other ethnic or racial minority group in this country, and what reason can there be for doing this other than to achieve propagandistic manipulation within "GROUPTHINK", à la Orwell's "1984"...?!

    Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
     
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    Never said you did. Rightists are the ones that hate America. Just to flip your words back to you. They even admit it.

    Lift Every Voice and Sing is not even a National Anthem. Some just take it to mean that as a unification for a group of people that were slaves.

    Here's the history of the song.

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    “Lift Every Voice and Sing” was written during a fraught moment in African-American history. At the dawn of the 20th century, post-Civil War reconstruction efforts were being dismantled; segregation had been codified through Plessy v Ferguson; and a Jim Crow reign of terror and exploitation was taking hold across the country.
    https://time.com/5864238/black-national-anthem/
     
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    It's only divisive to some people. To others, it's unifying.
     
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    Perspective around the world is not relevant to the song nor the SuperBowl.
    No one cares here about the 19th century. For this topic.
     
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    What does that have to do with the topic.

    A song that unites a group of people that were treated very badly in this country is being sung. BFD.

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    “Lift Every Voice and Sing” was written during a fraught moment in African-American history. At the dawn of the 20th century, post-Civil War reconstruction efforts were being dismantled; segregation had been codified through Plessy v Ferguson; and a Jim Crow reign of terror and exploitation was taking hold across the country.
     
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    I've never once heard anyone on the right, extreme or not, say that they hated America. I have heard such from leftists.

    Already know the backstory. That doesn't change current circumstances. It had a place then when blacks didn't have equal Rights. They do now. As such it no longer has a valid place as an anthem, of any kind. To call it such now indicates that they do not have equal rights. That is false. As such it only causes division to continually call it the Black National Anthem and insist that it be played as if it has the same meaning that our National Anthem has today.

    Think about that phrasing for a moment. When someone today says "our National Anthem" what comes to mind first? Is it the Star Spangled Banner? Or "Lift Every Voice and Sing"? Is it the US National Anthem? Or the Black National Anthem? When they say "our National Anthem" they don't even have to qualify it with "US". They simply know that its the entire countries anthem and knows that it applies to everyone. The vast majority don't even know the history, so pointing to that is useless and not representative of what it means to people today. The "Black National Anthem" on the other hand most today didn't even know about it until what happened with Kapernick and Floyd resurrected it.

    Today:
    National Anthem = Everyone
    Black National Anthem = For blacks only. As if they still do not have equal Rights. Which is BS.
     
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    I agree, actually. But -- every time you turn around some 'sob-sister' liberal is always throwing "slavery" in our faces and pleading the case that Black America is still so downtrodden because of slavery, and all the discriminatory practices that ended in this country, BY LAW, with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Good grief, Dairy -- it's been at least 58 years since then!

    How many more decades is all this pissing-and-moaning going to go on? How many times do all 'other-than-Black' American citizens have to have something like a special, 'Black national anthem' rubbed in our faces?

    We don't allow that exclusively for Latinos. We don't allow that for exclusively for East-Asians. And, despite your interest in the 19th-century history of the Star Spangled Banner, we don't have a riveted 'national anthem' exclusively for White people, either -- even though you like to juxtapose the date of the writing of Key's poem with slavery in the United States. Is it the fault of his poem that slavery didn't end until 1865?
     
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    It won’t be long before the NFL plays the LGB national anthem. You know it’s going to happen some day.
     
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    No, I meant what I said, not something else.

    The National Anthem hasn't gone anywhere, you are just triggered (or pretend to be triggered) that there is another song in the pregame activities, and it's about black people.

    Feel free to take the knee while they sing it.
     
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    NFL fans won't take a stand against it, so why shouldn't they do it?
     
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    Exactly how do you know that "NFL fans won't take a stand against it...."? :confusion:

    You may find these links interesting:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ack-national-anthem-performed-Super-Bowl.html
    https://www.totalprosports.com/nfl/super-bowl-lviii-black-national-anthem-fans-are-furious/
    https://www.gbnews.com/sport/other-sport/nfl-controversy-black-national-anthem-super-bowl

    Sure, there are a number of people who would predictably think it's perfectly OK to stage this 'alternate' national anthem right up there with The Star Spangled Banner... but it's clear that a lot of others do NOT....

    Why not do it? Have you read any of the posts in this thread? You'll see pro and con arguments.
     
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    Because they have sung it during pre-game activities for 4 years and the sky didn't fall. As a matter of fact people paid no attention, because no one knows what that song is supposed to be about. They only care about the National Anthem, which everyone knows, and is sung during the flag ceremony.

    Where is the "outrage" the British tabloids are talking about?
     
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    Because you're all still going to the games and watching them on tv.
     

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