Part 14 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Beast Mode

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    That's not possible because it is all a part of God's plan.
     
  2. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Yup God did us all a big favor He got rid of all the wicked and evil and save 8 imagine that only 8 good people that was how bad, evil and wicked the world was at that time and because God care and love us so much He can not allow wickedness and evil to take control of the world.

    Why would I call Mitt a liar? I am not like you making false accusations or claims.

    God gave man the free will and the responsibility and if man will abuse that free will to destroy the earth and kill other humans then God will intervene and I am very glad that God is on our side because history have shown that good people are no much against evil people.


    See now I can call you a liar. Tell me is God dead?
    Salvation has been accomplish through life not death that is why Jesus Christ Resurrection mark the beginning of Christianity and the salvation of all people. You can keep lying to yourself that God is dead the fact of the matter is God is not dead and God can not die that is why Christians rejoice in His name. Amen.
     
  3. Mitt Ryan

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    You have misunderstood a lot. That's why you have been asking lots of questions, that right there is an indication you don't understand. You misunderstood an earlier post by WR, thinking that WR was saying that Noah was going to help repopulate the world by having more children but we learn that is not what WR was saying, it's just that you misinterpreted what he said.

    When WR gives you answers which you should understand, you end up misinterpreting them and other times you reject them and so consequently you're still left in a state of utter confusion.

    You see, here's another question by you because you don't understand. We should not forget the true story of Noah. What led God to destroy/punish all but 8 people from the face of the earth during Noah's time.

    Look aren't we discussing it today? We certainly haven't forgotten about it...now have we?

    Click of the link below to get an understanding of the purpose of the Great Flood.

    http://www.gotquestions.org/Noah-flood.html#ixzz2vnzynJHK

    When God punished/killed all but 8 people from the earth, it didn't mean that God was eradicating all evil & wickedness once and for all. Sin will still be with us after the flood but the offspring from the corrupted line of humans would not exist anymore. Mankind was salvaged, and from the line of righteous Noah came the Son of Man, Jesus Christ our Lord, who died to save those who call upon His name.

    Again you need to click on the link I provided to get a thorough explanation.
     
  4. Giftedone

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    As usual you do not seem to know much about the Bible.

    Matthew 26: 36-56
    Luke 22:42

    Jesus did not want to go through with it. It was Gods will that he go to his death and that is what he did.

    Again of course this is another passage where clearly Jesus and God are not the same being.
     
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    So all the evil people were killed so we could have a repopulated world with evil people.
    Got it.
    By the way, have I thanked you today for providing me with my signature? You know I got it from you when you posted it but had no idea what it was really saying.
    Well, if I didn't, thank you.
     
  6. WanRen

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    Education is the key word.
    Early Bible and historian writers had no formal university grammar education and yet they were able to write , not down and chat down the events of their time.
     
  7. WanRen

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    I doubted it very much specially since you can not even accept that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

    Jesus is feeling his human form called fear and concern and it was very astonishing and grateful that God would become one of us to feel our pain, sorrow, and fear.
    [video=youtube;I3mFBh2z9sc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3mFBh2z9sc[/video]

    In the end Jesus over come his fear and for the sake of man he allowed man to torture and crucified him.
    John 1: 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own,[a] and his own people did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

    14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
     
  8. Mitt Ryan

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    Because they exercised their free will gift from God and chose to be Mormons, JW and Muslims.

    It means not to be a Mormom, JW or a Muslim or any other religion for that matter.

    In the field where WR and myself hang, the goal posts are very stable but in the field where your kind hang, the fraternity of non-believers the goal posts seems to shift here and there and everywhere...lol it is so not stable (unstable)...lol
     
  9. Beast Mode

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    So you admit that there is no uniform method that was relied upon for evaluating the truth statements of these writings? So what changed that we should all have a universal interpretation of these dubious recordings?
     
  10. Mitt Ryan

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    Huh? What belief system to you cling to cupid? Cause I have no idea what it is, but hey if you don't want to say that's ok.
     
  11. Mitt Ryan

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    No it doesn't, God didn't reveal it to us. Did you know that we humans haven't given our sun an official name? Our sun doesn't have a generally accepted and unique proper name. It's just the sun.
     
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    Rather than admit you are wrong and take responsibility for your mistake you seek to demonize. Why is this behaviour so typical of fundamentalists.

    What is worse is you then lie about me.

    This is what you said:

    The primary teaching of Christianity is that God so loved the world that sent his only begotten son to die as a sacrifice to take away the sin of the world

    You have denied the primary message of Christianity so you are not a Christian.

    WanRen denies the primary message of Christianity yet he runs around screaming to others "your not a Christian ...your not a Christian"

    Priceless :cheerleader:
     
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    Yes WanRen - Education is indeed the key word. Perhaps you should start by learning the primary message of Christianity (That God sent his only begotten son to die for the sin of the world).

    Next you might want to quit making things up as you go along and try to learn something about the whole of scripture rather than cherry picking a few passages and claiming authoritative knowledge.

    Then if you really want to gain a good understanding you should learn about the history of Christianity.

    Until then, and even after, you might want to stop putting words in Gods mouth.
     
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    Perhaps we should name it Jesus. Jesus is depicted as "the Sun God" quite often in iconography.
     
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    Listen to this rubbish "WanRen gives you answers" WanRen has not even figured out the primary message of Christianity. He denies that God sent his only begotten son to die for the sin of the world.

    Then there is your ... "you misunderstand a lot" more rubbish from someone who does not know squat.

    You might want to figure out who created Satan prior to telling others that they misunderstand.

    Have you figured out who created Satan yet Mitt ?
     
  16. Mitt Ryan

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    God is not three entities, nor three beings. God is a trinity of persons consisting of one substance and one essence. God is numerically one. Yet, within the single divine essence are three individual subsistences that we call persons.

    The Trinity can be a difficult concept to grasp. But this does not necessitate an argument against its validity.

    The law of identity states: "each thing is the same with itself and different from another": "A is A and not ~A". By this it is meant that each thing comprises it own unique set of characteristic qualities or features, which the ancient Greeks called its essence.

    Consequently, things that have the same essence are the same thing, while things that have different essences are different things.

    Since God is a trinity of persons consisting of one substance and one essence, the law of identity is not violated
     
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    1. There were 600,000 MEN that left Egypt, according to the Bible. That means there would have been around 2,000,000 including women and children.
    2. I agree that the Egyptians were afraid of the Hebrew numbers.
    3. I don't believe the Hebrews were slaves as we know slavery today. This practice in Egypt didn't come in until the Ptolemic age under Rome.
    3. I believe that some Hebrew men could even have borne arms in the Egyptian army as auxiliaries, a practise known to the ancient world.
    4. Now you agree they were able to defeat the Amalekites, although before you said they couldn't stand against the 'seasoned Amalekite soldiers'.
    The Israelites had only just left Egypt and crossed the Reed Sea a short time before the Amalekites attacked them. If you had any knowledge or experience at all you would know that it takes months to train soldiers, even just with swords, to be able to beat 'seasoned warriors'.
    5. No-one suggested that Israel aggressively settled in Egypt. According to the Bible they were welcomed.
    6. I didn't compare Davids aggression with the Babylonians etc. Nevertheless David - according to the Bible - extended his kingdom by conquering surrounding nations and city states. According to the Bible this kingdom extended from the borders with Egypt north and east to the Euphrates river.
    Of course this is the Bible scribes wishful thinking and no evidence has been found to substantiate this. David was an aggressor 2 Sam. 12:29-31 as just one example.
    7. What makes you think Moses and Joshua had military training. Although Moses was bought up in Pharaohs palace he was never really a part of Pharaohs family. He couldn't be. He was 'adopted'. And Joshua? We know little about him except that he was Moses helper.

    You've not thought this out very well, have you.

    As you know I don't believe that Israel was ever in Egypt, I just comment on what the Bible says.
     
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    Ignored post is almost a year old. But thanks for continuing to illustrate you are doing something to purposely irritate me. Does god like that you are doing this to your fellow man?
     
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    Salvation was accomplished through death and the shedding of blood, resurrection through Jesus resurrection, otherwise why did Jesus not just die naturally instead of fulfilling the OT's sacrifice example of shedding of goats blood. This is what Christianity claims, the fulfillment of OT prophesy and sacrifice in a 'New Way'.
     
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    Then you have a different God than the rest of christianity. I knew you were fake. God being omniscient, knew mankind would fall.
    But your God, being omniscient, knew mankind would be good.
    TY for confirming what I've been saying.
     
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    Funny, in these 14 or so threads, only Mitt and Wrong have interpreted the bible correctly. Everyone else who has posted gets it wrong.
    If on the wrong end so many times, maybe it would be wise to wake up and reevaluate one's position. Oh well, living for eternity without paradise might be something they enjoy.
     
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    At least you are correct here. You and Wrong hang yourselves everyday with your ignorance of the bible. Your made up stories. Your eating of babies. And you 2 are not stable.
     
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    Stables are where they keep asses!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, STABLE - ooops :wink:
     
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    There is no human established institution to evaluate the truth back then only emperors, monarchs, kings and queens who decide with impunity as to what is truth and not and this Bible writers who wrote the Words of God were inspired from God not from man or man gods. Man have always been dubious up to now that is why we have the Holy Bible to counter all these dubiousness.
     
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    God's plan is all about good and everlasting life. Satan's plan is about power, wealth, vanity, lust total disregard of human rights and disregard for everlasting good life and man fell to Satan's temptation.
     
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