Part 20 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You are at liberty to ask for clarifications for questions directed to wanren? Huh? Oh ok, got it.
     
  2. dairyair

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    Nice. Reaching for the stars.
     
  3. Incorporeal

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    Yeppir! It is an "open" forum. Free for all to participate.
     
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    Which calls into question just how Christians actually differ from other people. Are Christians more generous on average? More humble? I think not..
     
  5. Incorporeal

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    Now I really wonder what the difference is between a Christian and a non-Christian. Do you suppose it might have something to do with "Belief in Jesus the Christ as the Son of God and the Savior or mankind?"
     
  6. Durandal

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    I guess. For what it's worth, eh?
     
  7. Mitt Ryan

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    Nope sorry it didn't go to Neptune, the water is still here. Let's look at Scripture which gives us a clue.

    6 You clothed the earth with floods of water,
    water that covered even the mountains.
    7 At your command, the water fled;
    at the sound of your thunder, it hurried away.
    8 Mountains rose and valleys sank
    to the levels you decreed.
    9 Then you set a firm boundary for the seas,
    so they would never again cover the earth.---Psalms 104: 6-9 NLT

    After the waters covered the mountains (verse 6), God rebuked them and they fled (verse 7); the mountains rose, the valleys sank down (verse 8 ) and God set a boundary so that they will never again cover the Earth (verse 9) They are the same waters!

    Clearly, what the Bible is telling us is that God acted to alter the Earth's topography. New continental landmasses bearing new mountain chains of folded rock strata were uplifted from below the globe-encircling waters that had eroded and leveled the pre-Flood topography, while large deep ocean basin were formed to receive and accommodate the Flood waters that then drained off the emerging continents.

    That is why we find the oceans so deep, and why there are folded mountain ranges. Indeed, if the entire Earth's surface were leveled by smoothing out the topography of not only the land surface but also the rock surface on the ocean floor, the waters of the ocean would cover the Earth's surface to a depth of 1.7 miles (2.7 kilometers). We need to remember that nearly 70 percent of the Earth's surface is still covered by water. Quite clearly, then, the waters of Noah's Flood are in today's ocean basins.

    http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-floodwater.html
     
  8. Incorporeal

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    The matter of 'worth' is only up to the individual and is extremely ambiguous.
     
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    And...here we begin the manipulation of language and data to prevent the destruction of belief.

    MOD EDIT - Rule 2
     
  10. AlphaOmega

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    Yea yours does. You have to say you accept your god or you cant get in. Is that a correct statement? Its a yes or no. I know of course you wont answer with a yes or no but its nice to point out that its a valid on point yes or no.
     
  11. Incorporeal

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    why is it necessary to answer a loaded question? In fact, why are there only two options? The agnostics seem to have an alternative answer.... ride the fence line.
     
  12. AlphaOmega

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    No wan they don't/didn't miss anything. They fully understand what I am saying and why I am saying it. Also I don't recall ever saying I was the ruler of my own heaven, but now that you mention it, of course I should be as Heaven for me would definitely not include bowing to another being for eternity. I am my own person.
    Ah yes and where is the spirit world exactly? Ahh let me guess, its located exactly in the spirit world right?

    Which dimension is it in wan and where does the bible say this? Im curious as to how people who couldn't calculate the planetary orbits knew about m-theory. Does the bible state heaven and hell exist in a different dimension or did you just make that up?
     
  13. Mitt Ryan

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    It's possible allright I mean when it comes to God nothing is impossible, nothing that is contrary to His character and nature that is.

    If you're interested here's a thorough explanation of where the water came from, click on the link below:

    http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c010.html
     
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    so, finally you admit you have no idea. no idea if they even exist - and certainly no idea where, if they did exist. well done. now you can move a step forward and think about the fact that you're claiming knowledge where you have none. does that sit right with you?
     
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    Excellent you are reading books based on facts. Its a start.
     
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    Heaven:
    "heav·en (h[​IMG]v[​IMG][​IMG]n)n.1. The sky or universe as seen from the earth; the firmament. Often used in the plural.
    2. Christianity a. often Heaven The abode of God, the angels, and the souls of those who are granted salvation.
    b. An eternal state of communion with God; everlasting bliss.

    3. Any of the places in or beyond the sky conceived of as domains of divine beings in various religions.
    4. a. Heaven God: Heaven help you!
    b. heavens Used in various phrases to express surprise: Good heavens!

    5. The celestial powers; the gods. Often used in the plural: The heavens favored the young prince.
    6. A condition or place of great happiness, delight, or pleasure: The lake was heaven."

    Want coordinates? Extract them from the information given above. As I said before on this subject.... look around you.
     
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    actually, no. he gave up because you respond to everything with obfuscations of one sort or another. you do SOMETIMES answer direct questions with direct answers, but it's all too rare.

    I hate to say it, Incorporeal, but you are a bit like the passive aggressive bully. people who have nothing to hide, and prefer 100% frankness in dialogue, will tire of this very quickly.
     
  18. AlphaOmega

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    ooohhhh you got a dictionary too! Wow someone went to the bookstore! No look up Schizophrenic.
     
  19. Incorporeal

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    Am I supposed to be impressed or dismayed by your opinion?

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    Why? Are you wanting me to learn something new about you?
     
  20. crank

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    so every book ever written about supernatural or outlandish things - when not specifically and clearly identified by the author or authors as fiction - is true? by your standard ("because the book says so"), this must be the case. are you able to see the lunacy of that? even a little bit?
     
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    I can see the lunacy, as it would also apply to science books as well. Just because a science book says so, makes it real and true. LOL
     
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    really? but you yourself admit that the only reason you think the stories in the bible are true is that the book itself says they're true.

    there is no more 'evidence' in the bible for the supernatural claims than there is in any other book of tall stories. ie, none. there are mentions of places and known historical figures, but that's just backdrop ... set dressing, if you will. it's the outlandish claims that we're discussing here, not the setting. so, if your own 'standard' is to accept as true anything which claims to be true ... no matter how insane and unlikely, then ALL tall stories are true when not specifically identified as works of fiction.
     
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    Sure try Ms for magnificent.
     
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    You're not 'supposed' to be anything - I just thought it was worth saying. Sometimes I feel you ought to demonstrate a little more dignity. Or perhaps I just feel bad when your bloody cult strips you of same. So, my problem I guess.
     
  25. Mitt Ryan

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    Well our Lord Savior Jesus Christ certainly didn't tell us Noah's Flood was a fable.

    Jesus said, "When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. In those days, the people enjoyed banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat and the flood came and destroyed them all."---Luke 17:26-27 NLT

    Sorry but not everyone has the same view of you that the Great Flood was an impossibility. We Christians believe it was a real-life historical event.
     
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