Questions for Muslims

I don't care if people care or not.

You still are avoiding the question.

For the third time (today) now, why is it you don't posts the verses BEFORE and AFTER the verses you frequently post on here?

I don't care what "Jihadists" do, if the Quran has good and bad verses, whether other people care how you posts the verses, or anything else you can come up with to avoid answering the question. GET IT?

Salam

 

If the Christian bible commanded sexism, then yes, all true Christian would be sexists, by following it. Thing is, we don't see mountains of misogyny among Christians. We do see it among Muslims all throughout the Islamic world and to a severe degree. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/honor_killings/

As for "feminist Islamic theology", that is an impossibility. If someone is a Muslim they could not be a feminist/ If they were a feminist, they could not be a Muslim.

 

Dude, I'm not avoiding anything. Your idiot question has no meaning. Again, for the dense, IT DOESN'T MATTER if you have verses before and after, or you have verses individually. What do you think your precious Before and After verses are going to do ? Somehow change the meanings of the suras ?
They won't, they don't, they cannot. For example, the 5 translations of sura 4:34 still command Muslim husbands to beat their wives no matter what the other suras or ayhads say. You think you're going to prance in here and change the Koran ? To do what no one could do in 1400 years ? Your little before and after ploy isn't going anywhere, except making you look stupid. Pheeew.

 

For your information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_feminism

 

Bro, you are avoiding it.

I've asked why you don't do it. I asked you 4 times already. You're answer is because "it doesn't matter". Well, it does. It indeed changes the meanings of verses, and you know this which is why you won't post them. Lol.

I'm not trying to change the Quran. These verses are already in there. You just refuse to include them when you select specific verses to make your point.

If they won't change anything, then why not just do it to shut me up?

Not only for 4:34, but for all the verses the constantly post on this forum. It's very easy to find them in the many online Qurans available for free on the internet. So no excuses.

Anyway, you still have yet to answer: why don't you posts some verses before and after the verses you always posts?

Sorry, but "it doesn't matter" isn't the kind of answer I'd expect from a so-called expert on Islam and "Islamization". Not good enough. Keep trying though, and maybe you'll get in one day.

Salam

 

I don't need any "information". Feminism and Islam are opposites. One can be one or the other. Not both.

 

Never let the facts get in the way of a firm opinion.

 

HA HA HA. It changes the meaning of verses. So now we have invalidation, out-of-context, interpretation, and now gimmick #4 in the Islamapologist bag of tricks : Meaning changes. Well, actually it's just more of the old (very old) out-of-context ploy.
Challenge : Show us HERE & NOW, how the verses before & after sura 4:34 changes the meaning of the verse which advises Mulsim husbands to beat their wives. Come on Mr. Before & After. SHOW US.

and while you're doing that, you may check this out > http://www.politicalforum.com/terrorism/213559-can-muslims-ever-trusted-asked-non-muslims.html
but no response please. The responses are only for NON-Muslims.

 

Interesting thing about facts. They don't change other facts. A fact is a truth. All you Islamapologists are trying to do is to spin the truth into what you want it to be. Dumb. Very dumb. So now with all the other lunacies you foist upon us, now we're supposed to say yes to Muslims being feminists too, huh ? HA HA HA. I suppose it never occured to you that if a Muslim becomes a feminist, then she could no longer be a Muslim. Feminism is women's rights. Islam is the absence of women's rights. That was tough, huh ? THOSE are the "facts". Don't let them get in your way, now.

http://www.politicalforum.com/terrorism/213559-can-muslims-ever-trusted-asked-non-muslims.html

 

LOL so now not only have you avoided it for the 5th time, but you're counter is to get me to do it.... Why don't you just do it yourself?

I repeat, going on 6 times now: Why don't you even posts some of the verses before and after the verses you frequently post on this forum.

And bro don't worry, I'm not even wasting my time reading that let alone replying to it.

Salam

 

You know why I don't pay any attention to your lamebrain little ruse about before and after ? Because it's the same thing as the out-of-context gimmick which I already shot down long ago. Dude, your before and after nonsense was shot to hell before you even started it. Give it up - it's meaningless, and every time you bring it up, you just look stupid. Avoid ? HA HA HA. There's nothing to avoid, my boy. Only thing is for you to avoid making a fool out of yourself.

Now. About my Challenge : Show us HERE & NOW, how the verses before & after sura 4:34 changes the meaning of the verse which advises Muslim husbands to beat their wives. Come on Mr. Before & After. SHOW US.

http://www.politicalforum.com/terrorism/213559-can-muslims-ever-trusted-asked-non-muslims.html

 

lol bro, if you don't take it seriously, why keep responding?

You haven't proven anything othr than the fact for some reason you can't comprehend a simple question: Why don't you posts the verses before and after the verses you frequently post on here?

That's 7 times now, by the way.

If there's nothing to avoid, just answer it. Or do it.

Now, this is what I don't get. You avoid my "Challenge", then expect me to even consider your "Challenge." Isn't that just a tiny bit childish? Sorry, but it doesn't work like that. You refuse to do something you are "Challenging" me to do.... I think it's time one of us acts our age, and I don't think it's the 18 year old

Oh yeah, and nothing is stopping you from taking your own "Challenge" to prove me wrong, is there?

But it seems the only verses of the Quran you know are the garbage you read from Islamophobe clowns on those little websites of yours. That's really the only places you can read those verses out of context (yeah, I said it. Oh. My. God. Right?) and don't post any other verses. And you're foolish enough to actually try and argue using their "facts" which is really making it hard to take you seriously....

Salam

 

Gee, in that case, even though I read the bible, go to church and pray, I suppose I'm not a Christian, because I'm a feminist and contrary to what Paul teaches I certainly don't submit to my husband in everything (I think he'd think I went mental if I suddenly did. It would freak him out big time. LOL)

A principle protectionist certainly adheres to. That's what makes having a discussion with him it pretty futile.

 

No amount of proof would satisfy you.

 

My Challenge answers (and refutes) your Challenge. Didn't you notice ?
And there you go with your same old Islamapologist defenses again. "Out of context". Invalidation. Hey, you forgot "interpretation". What's the matter ?
You slipping ? LOL.

 

Paul doesn't define Christianity. Christ does that. And I already trounced his dumb remark about "facts", didn't you notice ? LOL.

 

Oh. Of course. Well, in that case, my Challenge also refutes yours. And I challenged you first.

And there you go with invalidation. Yaaawn.... Avoiding my challenge to continue taking verses out-of-context to prove the point of Islamophobic clowns which you have adopted as your own.

I'm still waiting: Why don't you posts verses before and after the verses you frequently posts on this forum?

Salam

 

There you go again yammering about "out-of context". HA HA HA. Oh yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiight ! HA HA HA. And as for invalidation, no, there YOU go again. That's your talking point not mine.
As for your silly "challenge" (if you like to call it that, Ill let you slide), I don't have to posts verses before and after the suras I post. The suras speak for themselves. Koran 4:34 says "beat them". Can you show how verses
before and after it, change it ? That's rhetorical question. Of course you can't, and that's why you haven't even begin to accept my challenge to do that, because you know you can't, and all your before and after jibberish is just that. Childish, silly jibberish. YAWWWWWWWWNN !!! HA HA.

 

Your posts are so hateful , did you have a relative die at the hands of some terrorist or something?

 

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Surah 4:34 isn't the only verses you post though. And no excuses for avoiding it then, since it won't change anything, right?

 

I'm afraid your knowledge of Christianity equals your knowledge of Islam. It is poor.

 

Oh, I get called "hateful" quite often. And I respond the same way each time. I hate hatred. So therefore, I hate the book of hate > the Koran. And why don't you ? (if you hate hatred).

 

I don't need to know so much about Islam or Christianity. I am very knowledgeable of Islam as it pertains to Islamization in America. That's what I'm concerned about. If anyone thinks they are knowledgeable about that, take the Islamization Quiz. We'll find out how knowledgeable you are. LOL.

 

So you won't (can't) show before and after verses for 4:34 ? Of course not.

 

So...take a quiz that is specifically designed to be failed unless you believe all muslims are evil and want to kill anyone who is not muslim and take over the entire world.... no thanks...it's a waste of time.