Religion is irrelevant in todays world

I gave you the link

That is not what you said earlier: Your earlier statement reads "In the Bible it says to "understand what this means" "



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You will see The Awful Horror of which the prophet Daniel spoke. It will be standing in the holy place. (Note to the reader: understand what this means! http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...24&version=GNT

 

Defective link:

This is what I got by clicking on your link above:
"Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /passage/...24&version=GNT on this server.
Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at www.biblegateway.com Port 80"

Therefore, you have provided nothing in support of your claim.

 

You are the one who claims to have scriptural knowledge comming directly from the Holy Spirit (God)

Explain what you are talking about instead of just making leading statements.

It is pretty clear .. Jesus talks about the Awfull Horror in Danial which refers in part King that claimed to speak for God.

Then he clarifies in the next passage above what will happen in the future .. folks will claim they have direct contact with the Messiah (which is the same as claiming to have contact with the Holy Ghost since they are the same entity)

Again, how does that relate to me and anything that I have stated?

Jesus warns against people who claim scriptural knowledge given them directly from "the Messiah" which is the same as from "the Holy Spirit"

You claim that you have spiritual knowledge due to your communication with the Holy Spirit.

This is exactly what Jesus is warning against.

Who are false prophets?

Is it not clear by now ?

 

And your point?

I think you need to go to bed and get some rest. At least take the time to make some cogent explanation of what you are trying to say.

That is not what it says. You do need Reading comprehension .000001.

Where is that warning in the Bible. You still have not provided any such reference.

Where does Jesus give such a warning?

If it was clear, I would not have asked you for clarification.

BTW: the Messiah is not the same as the Holy Spirit or vice versa.

 

Denial after denial ..

The Awfull horror, complete with false prophets who claim to know where the Messiah is

"Look here look there.."

Is Jesus describing folks who who claim to speak for God or who claim to have knowledge of scripture comming directly from God.

Its the same thing mate.

The claims that you make in relation to your knowledge of scripture from direct communication with God is what Jesus is referring to.

Look here you say .. I know the true meaning of scripture given to me by Jesus himself .. the messiah .. the Holy Spirit.

It was Jesus who spoke on behalf of God .. knowing the true meaning of scripture directly from God. No one else.

Jesus says that If someone says .. Look here .. there is someone who knows the true meaning of scripture imparted to them directly from God

Do not believe them.

If someone pointed to you and said to me .. Look here .. there is someone who knows the true meaning of scripture imparted to them directly from God.

I take Jesus's advice.

 

Are you suggesting that I have stated that I know where the Messiah is or that I have stated "Lo, here [is] Christ, or there;"? If that is what you are suggesting, then please show the posting wherein I stated something of that effect, else be publicly known as a liar.

That is your quotation of something, but it is not a quotation of any comment that I have made (unless I was quoting that scripture,,,, as above)

You have knowledge of scripture and so do most others on this forum... so what point are you attempting to make? You really do need to go back to school and learn how to properly express yourself.

What is the same thing? BTW: I am not a mate.

Once again, you keep making the same claim, but you also keep failing to show the scripture where that is stated.

No!.. That is your interpretation of what I have stated.

I will accept that statement above... as being applicable for the time frame in which Jesus walked the earth.

WOW... You have really exalted yourself in that private translation of the scripture.

OH Trust me... I don't believe you for even a second.

That would be a problem for the one who pointed at me and made that statement.

You ought to learn how to read His word and then you would better understand the advice that He gives.

 

You are completely disingenuous !!

You claim to know about the truth of scripture from your communication with the Holy Spirit.

Only the Messiah has the ability to speak on Gods behalf.

You claiming to direct communication with the Holy Spirit is claiming direct communication with God.

This is the same as saying " I am giving you the words that God told me"

That is speaking for God and acting in the place of the Messiah.

Delusions of grandeur dude .. Delusions of grandeur !

 

No! You are.. Throwing out all those little projections is only a dead give away of your true character.

Yep! So what?

Not true! A false premise on your part.

If you are referencing God the Holy Spirit, then Yes!

Again, if you are declaring God the Holy Spirit.

Wrong again. "1Cr 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."

No! No delusions at all. Just a KNOWing of the scripture ...the Word of God. Seemingly something that you are lacking.

 

You better be sure about that !

I will take my quotes of Jesus words over your quotes of Pauls words.

There is only one Master .. and you are not it.

 

Did I claim to be the Master? No? Another one of your insinuations leading to a false representation.

As for my certainty.... I am very certain.

To reject the words of Paul, is also to deny a goodly portion of the NT.

 

You do not claim to be "the Master" but you claim the same position "speaking for God" aka Holy Spirit.

Im glad you are certain because you are playing with fire.

Paul did not know Jesus. I would take the words of Jesus over that of Paul any day.

 

If you claim to speak words, or claim to have information or knowledge, that have come to you from the Holy Spirit then you are claiming to have a message from God.

This is true if you believe that the Holy Spirit is God or is Gods messenger.

If you claim to have messages from God, then you are God's messenger.

Are you God's messenger ?

 

What the.. More rational species? Compared to not so rational Homosapien sapien's? Like the ones who built the pyrmids?

But, outside of that, religion belongs nowhere in The Creator's plan. God (Jewish and Muslim God) doesn't "need" religion, just devotion. Religion was created from man and man is corrupt!!

 

Gee... it seems that you must have taken an awareness pill this morning. Congratulation.

 

Good then:

From now on perhaps should I address you as "Gods Messenger" The one who speaks for God ?

Perhaps we could just shorten the title to the insignia {GM}

It could also stand for Great Montanist !!

 

You can do whatever you desire to do within the confines of the little tiny box that you are captured in. Will your doing as you please make that doing (or act) right? Will you be able to PROVE what you are doing, using objective empirical evidence?

 

Yes .. I am a humble soul who does not have direct communication with God as you do.

Since you are in fact Gods Messenger who converses with God on a regular basis, please ask him how the Spectacled Bear made it back to South America after the Ark made ground.

By answering this and a few other vexing questions you will be able to prove you are who you say you are.

You will also be able to prove to yourself that the Spirit of God you are talking to is not just a figment of your imagination.

 

Now that you have made the assumption that I am "in fact Gods Messenger who converses with God on a regular basis...", it is time now for you to use objective empirical evidence to support your belief that I am such as you have described.

In providing that objective empirical evidence, you must also show objective empirical evidence that shows the existence of God. If you cannot provide that evidence, then your inability to show that evidence will serve to show that you will believe anything that anybody says.


Remember, in that last post of mine, I stated...."You can do whatever you desire to do within the confines of the little tiny box that you are captured in. Will your doing as you please make that doing (or act) right? Will you be able to PROVE what you are doing, using objective empirical evidence? "

 

What are you blubbering about now. LOL

You are the one who claims to be Gods messenger. The one who claims to converse with the Holy Ghost on a daily basis and knows things about scripture on this basis.

 

A "claim" is a lot different than a fact. You are the one who has stipulated that the matter is a 'fact'. It is to the point of that alleged "fact" which I address. You stated it to be a fact, now prove the alleged 'fact'.

 

I see how you could take that statement to mean that I was claiming it was fact.

That was not my intent. Let me rephrase by changing one word in the sentence.

Instead of Since .. put the word "If"

 

No! That was your statement, and your statement cannot be interpreted in any other way than what the statement reads. You stated in relevant part "..it is a fact..."

Now prove the FACT that you are speaking about.

Your desire now to alter what you said, is only a means of rationalization, justification,,,, YOU have stated something to be a "FACT" which you cannot prove and you have been caught in making a false claim.. false claim being a claim to which there is no way to prove the actuality of that claim.

 

I already corrected my statement and said it was not my intent to state it was fact.

I do not believe, nor can I prove you are Gods Messenger.

It is you that has claimed you converse one on one with the Holy Spirit.

My question then is:

 

Look, I get that you want to feel a connection with the Holy Spirit.

There is nothing wrong with this.

The problem is that when you claim to speak words, or claim to have information or knowledge, that have come to you from the Holy Spirit then you are claiming to have a message from God.

If you claim to have messages from God, then you are claiming to be God's messenger.

Are you God's messenger ?