Religion is irrelevant in todays world

As per the title of the thread.

I think that now as we are a more knowledgeable and rational species we should put an end to the whole religion thing.
Discuss...

 

knowledge evolves.

it is evident.

ie.... a person can now read just about alll the religious opinions and sciences and philosophies and be more capable than moses, jesus, muhammad, buddha, einstein, confucius, and me combined.


and then learn some more tomorrow

 

Yep knowledge is evolving but i see religion is not...
To me belief in god is just a crutch for the weak minded.

 

so lets help 'all'

for example:

call up these guys.............................


For the truths on carbon look here

http://www.galileomovement.com.au/untruths_nutshell.php


and add the facts of life>



carbon is the chemical element found in most all life we experience. From you and I, to Moses and Muhammad, to einstein and confucius............ all lived on carbon as the root element.

So assist others in 'understanding' (we are in a religious section) about what the most common isotope of that chemical element is, carbon-12.

And then represent the basics of what that element is chemically composed of :

6 electrons, 6 neutrons, 6 protons................. (everyone of us is living on C-12)

So now with the 'truths about carbon" ....then all can be branded with knowledge upon the head......

ie.... it reminds me of the metaphor of david and goliath; a stone to the head will knock out the biggest of giants.


wasnt that fun?





did you evolve today?

 

Let me guess: You "just accept the truth we are here and then we die."

 

I dunno. I think religion is still very much relevant seeing as how majority of the world believe in some kind of faith.

See, it's this kind of thinking that annoys me. I have no problem with Atheists. But when they say things like "religion is irrelevant" "god is fake" "you believe fairy tales" "religion is for the weak" it gets annoying. Because it's arrogant. Really arrogant.

I can't prove God exists. But you can't prove God doesn't exist. So nobody should talk like they are "right", unless you can prove what you believe.

 

Well, someone is in overt and obvious denial.

Let me begin with a question: Is there anything more intolerant than atheism?

The idea that religion is irrelevant runs smack into the reality of the world. One need only look at the upheavel in the Middle East and the actions between moderate and extreme to realize that religion is obviously a major factor in moder geo-politics.

But we can look beyond the typical bashing of atheists, and we can look at countries like China. Although officially atheist, China has sizeable populations of Christians, Buddhists, and Muslims (who happen to sit adjacent to one area of instability). These people remain despite severa decades of official government action to eradicate religion.

Everywhere you look, you find religion. The Pope visits Spain, and the atheist lie of the religion being absent in Europe is exposed. More than a million Spainish citizens turned out to see the pontif. Does that sound irrelevant?

You can also just drive around and take a look. How many hospitals are there that have a religious base? Entire networks of charity run through church heirarchy that alleviate suffering on a massive scale.

But, you are now atheist, so all other opinions on God are irrelevant? Should be swept aside in a massive hand wave of intoerance.

I tell you this now, it is opinions such as the one in the OP that will eventually cause a backlash toward atheists.

Once again, I realize that atheists like to play the victim card, but the reality of the OP is pure arrogance. It is the belief that a person, based on their faith, is now irrelevant. Such antics play directed into the lack of trust of atheism in the modern world. Increasingly, atheism looks like the refuge of dogmatic, unreasonable, and simply mean spirited. Unfortuantely for atheists and tehir delusions about the demise of religion, it is atheism that will inexorably move toward irrelevancy - if indeed it is relevant to anything other than law suits now.

 

Perhaps your thinking will evolve from that limited and narrow view.

 

Yeap. That is. We live and die. End.

The rest of things are irrellevant. That don't affect to our lifes. It doesn't affect to us in any way. God doesn't affect to our destiny in anything, so we don't need it.

Religion is just a stop in the evolve of the human nature. Religion is something that must be left in the past, something of our primitive minds. Religion is primitive, the last remaining of other times.

 

As I've explained many times: if you do an affirmation you must show the proofs of that affirmation.

I don't have to show the proofs of the wrongfull of this affirmation. And all the discoveries done show no existence of God.

If I do the affirmation that I have three legs, you must make me to show the evidence of this affirmation, or just have faith in what I am saying that is true.

 

Sorry million of Spanish? LOL don't make me laugh.

First, was international: There was people from all the world.

Second: If you pay everything, the people will go, but many for party. And that is what people did. If you have free food, free shelter, free party, opportunity to meet a lot of people, and you're young, what do you think that you will do?

Yes, people went to see the Pope, but many people went for the party and the costs paid.

Also in Spain there was protests against that, and all the stats are saying that the atheism is increasing every year in Spain, and the churches are emptier, also the vocations, there are almost no vocations.

Europe every year is less religious. That is a fact.

But again, the Pope visit congregated people from all the world, not Spanish people, I assure you that Spanish people were less, and also you have to add that Spanish people, mainly young enjoy a lot the parties, and that was a big party.

 

An dI don't now how many times the rules of logic have to be pointed out to atheists. Any claim you make must be backed up by support.

You guys claim there is no God, have absolute certainty, and all you have to back it is the burden of proof fallacy.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/is_god_real.html

No worries though, your total lack of proof and advocacy of fallacy is obviously proof positive that there is no God.

Really, it proves nothing more than laziness and emotional resistance.

 

No. Again, prove that something doesn't exist is absurd. You don't have to show negative evidence. Basic principle in science.

You must show that God exist. If there are no proofs, then it is supposed that theory is undemonstrable, then wrong at least until it is proven, so it gives the conclusion that doesn't exist. Simple.

And how theists never have showed any evidence of its existence. The bible is not a valid source, sorry.

 

http://departments.bloomu.edu/philosophy/pages/content/hales/articlepdf/proveanegative.pdf

Professional logicians disagree with you.

Now, glad to see that the source, rather than the information itself, is the basis for your denial.

You haven't even bothered to look, and yet remain certain that there is no God? Lazy - and stupid. As long as you can ridicule someone else though? Modern atheism. Why would anyone choose arrogance and deliberate ignorance over God?

 

Ignorance?

And who said that I didn't take a look in your sources. Just I don't take them seriously and I ignore them.

There is no God. The evidence is clear. The Big Bang, evolution, everyday a new discovery in science shows that less necessary is God.

And also, there is a logic failure in the existence of God:

- If everything was necessary to be designed by an intelligent being. God by whom was designed?

 

The evidence is only clear that you are willfully ignoring the very evidence you demand.

Arrogant, stupid, and now obtuse beyond belief. The qualities it takes to deny God are magnificent in their poor quality.

Deny away, people will see it exactly for what it is. Denial at any cost. emotion not logic.

 

Ok. That page didn't say anything. Only nonsense. No proofs. There is no proof.

 

The first was nothing but scientific explanations. The second was about how you can indeed, logically, prove a negative.

You didn't read them.

So, in rder to deny God, you need extreme arrogance, deliberate ignorance, incredible obtuseness, and dishonesty.

Oh, I would say that religion remains defiantly relevant in the face of that moral turpitude.

 

perhaps, unless they can 'write' another book?


ie... the last chapter (understanding)

In which mankind, finally comprehends itself (existence)

it is what being 'born again' is all about.

(a) born of flesh,

(b) understanding what it is.

 

So you like to destroy the crutches of the weak minded because you are a member of an evolved rational species.

http://youtu.be/exuj_wO0vlY

 

Not at all, but i do think i am a realist. If there are some out there in the world recruiting people into the BUSINESS that is modern religon i think that is wrong.

 

Like it would not be wrong for atheists to be out there recruiting people into the business of modern atheisms religion?

 

Just because i am a nice bloke i will fix that erroneous post...
it should have read..

So, in order to deny God, you need extreme logic, a strong mind and the ability to understand the history of human beings.

 

ALL religion that CLAIMS the existence of a god is just plain wrong...Not only is it wrong but its misguided and has done more harm to us as a species than just about anything else. How many deaths has there been over the idiotic "my god is better than your god" fight... Any person that believes in such fairy tales that there is no proof of should be certified in the loony bin

 

Oh wait...you missed a few things...

So, in order to deny God, you need extreme hubris, a strong ego, and the ability to [personally] understand the [foibles and frailties resultant from that in the] history of human beings.