Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?

Where in the mischaracterization?

 

Science isn't religion and I have never known anyone who worshipped science.. I mean really.. Have you ever known anyone who worshipped chemistry or geology or medicine??

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I think the OT is about the origins and history of the Jews.. no one else.

 

Yes, science isn't a religion. But atheists base their whole outlook of life on science.

 

Science can be seen as a religion. "3. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion:" www.tfd.com/religion
I would venture to guess that a great number of the non-theists on this forum exercise zeal and conscientious devotion to the subject of science.

 

Already told you right after you made it.

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In general I agree however, Genesis does try to explain the origin of man and the earth.

 

Where do you get off making such a claim? Not all atheists are scientists.

 

Well, you could go back and read it again.. There were obviously other people living on earth so it seems to me that Adam is THEIR ancestor.. and the story is THEIR history not the history of the Gentiles or anyone else.

 

hmmm You mean those folks that Cain was afraid would kill him and so God put a mark on his forehead ?

I always wondered about that as well. If Cain was one of the firstborn of Adam .. where on earth did these other folks come from ?

 

Who said they have to be scientists? Why else are atheists constantly whinging about the lack of evidence?

 

Today it is the scientist that are warning us and prophesying the earth's destruction and the call for men to change the same message that was echoed thousands of years ago the difference back then it was called sins of men today it is men's corruption, abuse and exploitation.
[video=youtube;sUoWX4Q2y_A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUoWX4Q2y_A[/video]

 

Yes it does.

 

Wannie, how do you manage to reply to a post with something that has nothing to do with the post your are replying to?

There is only about 1.6% of the world's water that is locked up in ice. I can't figure out how that will raise sea levels such as they are trying to tell us, can you?

 

Because these scientists lie a lot. They hide evidence and put out false info - depends on who's paying them. Many of them are no different than politicians. The few who tell the truth are either permanently silenced or just ignored.

 

I think atheism is a fairy tale, and a delusion, too. I don't disrespect atheists, I just don't agree with them. On the other hand, I see too many atheists disrespecting religious people, feeling like they're somehow morally superior.

I'm Christian and believe in equal rights for women and gays. What do you have to tell me? I'm not a literalist or fundamentalist, and I could tell you forever how there is no proof the Bible condemns homosexual LOVE (but it does condemn homosexual and heterosexual lust, prostitution and immorality).

Do you think atheists are more moral or all atheists believe in equal rights? Then you're very wrong. Communism is by nature atheist, take a look at what Communism did. Or do you believe in the Communist fairy tale? Stalin and Che Guevara condemned gays. Stalin criminalized homosexuality. Communism also destroyed churches and wanted to destroy religion. Communist regimes were secular, atheist.

I agree with Rabbi Hillel, indeed. I believe that literal, fundie interpretation of religions is extremely dangerous.

But you're saying religions are fairy tales and blah blah blah. How can you be so sure? I believe in MY religion, and I had a strong personal experience. I was an ex idolater/satanist/agnostic and many other really unchristian things. Now I'm a believer in Jesus Christ. My personal experience matters to me, and I don't want other people to invalidate it.
You can say you don't believe in any religion, and I'm fine with it. But calling religions fairy tales and people delusional is very offensive. I used to do that too, unfortunately, but I still believed in some kind of God and thought revealed religions were some kind of mask or deception to hide something "deeper".
I respect everyone's beliefs, something you don't seem to do with this post.

 

I give respect as and where required.

That means little respect for the mainstream homophobic and misogynous religions.

Respect that garbage all you like.

You say you are a Christian who wants to hang on to his religion.

Christianity begins with a belief that God has condemned us all, like all good pricks, and that you must accept that substitutionary punishment is somehow moral.

I do not think it is for the obvious reason that the guilty should be punished and not the innocent for the guilty.

Do you feel it just to lay your responsibilities for what you have done onto the shoulders of your innocent scapegoat?

Is that what you are teaching your children?

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DL

 

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How is Atheism a fairy tale? If they disrespect you it is because they regard you as ignorant and defending your ignorance with vile threats that Atheists are going to suffer forever. We do not feel morally superior, intellectually yes. Many of us are former Christians….we read that Bible and saw with clear eyes what a farce it is.

It is instinct to have fear/hate of those who are vastly different. The homos are certainly different, and as long as they play the part of the sex they were born with they will have equal respect. But if they are kissing and hugging in public they will gain our disrespect.
And yes, your Bible does condemn the man who lies with another man as with a woman.

Don’t confuse communism with Atheism. All communists may be Atheists, but not all Atheists are communists. As to atrocities, maybe you should look at Christian history.
Remember the Inquisition? And the march of the Christians across Europe converting or killing - just like the Jihadists of today? Religion is the bane of humanity.

Why do you condemn yourself with the doctrine of Original Sin? Do you really believe that you should suffer for what your ancestors did?

The story of the slain god-man is as old as humanity. As late as the 1800’s there were still back-woods tribes practicing this spring ritual in which they literally ate the flesh and drank the blood of the man they were killing.

We are perplexed that otherwise intelligent people can practice symbolic cannibalism and think it is something holy or spiritual. We wonder how you cannot see that your Jesus is the Sun. You worship on SUNday. At Easter you have SUNrise services. We wonder how you can believe this story put together by the Roman Jews to control the Pagans with fear of everlasting punishment. There is no proof that such a person as Jesus ever existed. If he did he certainly was not important enough to be noted in history. The Romans have no record of such an execution.

Fact is the partially rewritten story of the Roman Sun God Mithra is your Jesus. Read it and wake up.
http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/mithras/display.php?page=main

 

When was the last time an atheist came knocking on your door and preaching that your religion is nonsense?
Me, I get the deranged at my door all the time telling me I need to believe in an invisible man that needs money. (Thank you George Carlin)

 

Let's be honest here people your run of the mill average Christian believes the Bible is the word of god and most never were encouraged to read the whole book including the bad parts since the NT is supposedly excusing the horrors in the OT and that Creation was literally seven days and discounts evolution. People are not largely scholarly if there was an Exodus they are to stupid to study it to figure out if its true and are "feel good" Christians. I would argue many other faithful are the same of other religions especially among those in backward and poor countries with people of limited education. So religion is dangerous due to ignorance its not the educated Christian or faithful that concern me they are not the norm.