Russia planing for WW#3?

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Maniacs in the Kremlin? Let me ask you who has started, or been involved in, the greatest number of wars, bombings, regime manipulations and belligerent incursions since the end of WW2? If your answer is 'America', you go to the top of the class.
     
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    In case you hadn't noticed the Soviet Union doesn't exist any more. In its place we have US imperialism.
     
  3. flyboy56

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    The US should have planted the Stars and Stripes right in the heart of Russia after Germany fell. Allowing Russia to build a wall and survive after WW2 just goes to show our leaders are not that smart when it comes to foreign policy. The more we get involved with foreign affairs the more we screw things up.
     
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    Yeah to be fair American armed spending is more than the other top 23 nations combined. Not only this but most of the other 23 are allies apart from Russia and china. Russian military changes are to provide a more modern force for today's era, but there aggressive stance is because they are losing their sphere of influence. Russia only survives due to its supply of gas to the EU. Without that, Russia would become under increasing trade pressure by the EU. I think it's commonly forgotten but Germany, Britain and France each have larger economies then Russia. And Britain and France outspend Russia on military.

    Russia is aggressive as its still declining as a world power, and thus is trying to claw back power and relevance.

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    Russia was an ally post world war 2 for a small while. But they also had a comparable armed and economic force.
     
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    No, that just shows your elite didn't want to end up like Hitler.
     
  6. Europan

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    Not even Putin is insane enough to secretly violate a UN weapons control treaty.

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    You have no idea what your talking about? You're not even European so stop spouting stuff that have no basis in reality.
     
  7. flyboy56

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    Russia was never an ally. They just had a more immediate enemy in Germany. Immediately after overtaking Germany they started claiming territory and building walls.
     
  8. Europan

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    If the USSR "was all time best" it wouldn't have collapsed into a bloody heap with its republics fleeing into the arms of the EU and NATO. Why are Commies such indoctrinated Borg like drones. Stop swallowing everything Russia Today tells you and start thinking for yourselves. The Soviet Union collapsed because its economic model was a decrepit, corruption plagued disaster, hence why Communism today has been consigned to history with no country on Earth bothering keeping it. Hell even Cuba is beginning to embrace free market policies.
     
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    You really believe Russia was able to put up a fight agains the US in 1645? The US was just getting started, and it was the only country that had the bomb. What it showed was our foreign policy experts were not able to see beyond the immediate future. They should have let Patton finish off Russia and MacArthur should have been able to finish off Korea.
     
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    There is some truth to the US having access to credit to fund it's government and war machine. That credit cannot last forever and eventually we may go the way of the old Soviet Union.
     
  11. Europan

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    MacArthur wanted to use Nukes against North Korea during the war but was vetoed by Truman. Had he been allowed the world today might have been spared the genocidal Kim dynasty holding the world to nuclear ransom, as well as saving the north of Korea from 60 years of living in a kleptocratic prison state.
     
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    Of course not. The US didn't existed in 1645.

    Speaking about 1945, Red Army has just crushed Nazi Germany, you think waaaaay smaller, unexpierenced and mostly technologically inferior US army was able to challenge it? Hell no, it would end up in a month with throwing US army to the oblivion of the seas. US never fought with equal enemy.
    So what? US didn't have enough production facilities to produce them in a numbers, worth calling sufficient. It would take months to produce a new bomb after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And, most importantly, the US didn't have a mean to deliver it safely. USSR mainland was pretty much secured from this threat with it's massive airforce and huge distances.
    Rly? That was you to start the Cold War, which is just another sign of your imperialist nature. That is why US and NATO should be destroyed as political structures.
    You are a typical product of inferior US education system. Patton died 21-th december 1945. He couldn't "finish Russia" because he was already dead to the end of WW2, let alone the fact he would end up sended in a bag back home with those hundreds of thousands US troops, if he could try.
     
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    The US Armed Forces were "inexperienced" in 1945?! Oh dear. :lol:

    Commies and other haters of freedom are quite a strange bunch. Having lost the Cold War, and seeing former Soviet territory today playing host to US and NATO forces, you would think they would be far more humble about their inferior Russian forces. You lot lost, get used to it!
     
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    Don't be so butthurt of you following USSR path, sweete.
     
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    Er, the USSR is dead and gone. Suck it up. :D
     
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    Not yet. EUSSR is still standing. For now all it needs to crumble is a little push.
     
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    You're not making any sense whatsoever. Yes or no, is the Soviet Union gone?
     
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    Sorry but the weather defeated Hitler's military. Russian people should be thanking God even to this day. You should be thanking God. Yet your obvious arrogance prevents you from seeing the truth. Your country would have been destroyed by Hitler's military.
     
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    It was the weather to slaughter 5 million of German troops. Seems to be the job of that racist General Winter, wich hit only Nazis and never Red Army. And there is absolutelly no way Germans might find out that it is cold in Russia during winter. Must be a real surprise for them. Okay. Get it.
    Have a nice day at school tommorow.

    Is reading really that hard? Obviously not, EU is still standing, thus must be destroyed by progressive humanity. Hehe.
     
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    Of course it's not. They've had a KGB agent as President for some time now. They just dropped the USSR name and now just call it Russia. Companies who have gone under do the same thing all the time.
     
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    It's too bad then that they still somehow feel the need the be the world's second largest oil supplier, and it's a real pity that they don't have vast resources of other kinds in Siberia they could easily trade. Yeh, they're gonna just have to go to war.

    Still better dead than red eh? Even though they're not really Red any more. We beat the Russians by scaring them so bad with our buildup that they ruined their own economy trying to keep up with us. That worked so well on them that now we've decided to try it on OURSELVES.
     
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    Like it didn't in 1945 capturing Berlin...oh...wait. I thought distance from Berlin to Moscow is equal to the distance from Moscow to Berlin. Or they teach the other way in 'Murican elemrntary schools?

    Which would mean they were dumb and incompetent, as opposed to the Red Army in this aspect. Also, I find your primitive understanding of fighting a war for four years without fuel and food being cute and amusing.
    Rubbish.
    With 90% of his forces fighting on the Eastern front.
    Bwahahaha! So, the weather "stopped" them in 1941....and in 1942.....and in 1943....and in 1944...and it ended up in 1945 in Berlin...all about weather. Sorry you seem to be both retarded and ignorant.
    Is that self-advise or smth? Reading that weather is capable of fighting with entire German army for four years through all seasons was very entertaining I guess.
    Seems that it was the weather to kick your ass in Vietnam, right? *giggle*

    So that is what the Party told you, savge? Care to provide a link?
    You yourself just stayted that USSR is a no more. What is this, some kind of split mind or smth?
    Also, please, use "criminal, mafia run hellhole" to where it truly belongs - the EU.
    Ah. Self-advice. Cute.
    Why would it? Lowering prices is not killing anyone. In this case, perhaps we should just shut the pipilines to Yourop (low profits anyway) and watch it burning furniture to make it through winter. Or bomb your KSA cultural brothers. Or give a nuke to Iran. Each of this options is awesome! :smile:
     
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    Isn't that like saying Crosley is still in business because they're now making washing machines under another name? It's true that all the people living in the former Soviet Union didn't commit suicide and they still have as big an Army as you'd expect from the world's largest country. (though not even half the size of ours) But they're not pushing world communism anymore. (certainly no more than we're pushing world capitalism). They don't have a one party system. They don't maintain the entirety of Eastern Europe and support noncontiguous satellites in both hemispheres (like we do) and they have seen about a third of the territory they once had, much of it the richest, become fully independent nations.

    But, yeh, it's just a name change. They're still a bunch of dirty commies underneath. Them and their little Yellow Peril pals. They'll get us unless we have a bigger and bigger Army and make sure we spend more and more money on it. (*)(*)(*)(*) our roads and bridges, the family who dies because they hit a pothole at 60 should be proud to give their lives for America.
     
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    Not to mention a thoroughly conditioned populace who believe in the absolute power and superiority of said government and military. America is a scary entity indeed.
     

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