Sheriff Arpaio revives birther controversy at Trump rally

Obama is a citizen because his mother was a citizen.

Why he posted two fake birth certificates on the internet is anyone's guess.

Expert document examiners all say that his birth certificates are fake.

 

Sorta like the Bush was AWOL crowd? Heck they made a major motion picture about that one.

 

Nope, his citizenship hinged on his place of birth because of the law at the time which has since been changed. His mother would have had to live within the borders for a period of five years prior to his birth and after she had turned 16. She was 18 or 19 years old when he was born so Obama did NOT get his citizenship from his mother, they only way he could get it was by his place of birth which was Hawaii.

 

He is a citizen because his mother was a citizen. He could have been born in Canada or Kenya, it doesn't matter.

I'm not saying he wasn't born in Hawaii. I think he was. That doesn't change the fact that his birth certificates are fakes.

 

No, he DID NOT gain his citizenship from his mother because she had not lived within the borders for 5 years after her 16 birthday before he was born, that is what the law required at the time of his birth. I thought the same thing at the time until it was pointed out the law was different then. Cruz's mother HAD lived withing the borders meeting that stipulation so he did get his from his mother, but as far as Obama everything hinged on his place of birth, that is why it went on for so long.

 

They do? All of them? Wow, that is amazing. Who are these experts? Right wing hacks that write articles for mindless right wing blogs like WND?

 

You mean rulings like this?

Yup your wrong Im right

Theres you problem the constitution does not require merely citizen at birth it requires natural born citizen. If it merely required citizen at birth it would have stated so.


JFK was not a duel citizen. Who did he duel? He was not a dual citizen either.

Yup he definitely is not an NBC and his BC proves it.

 

They are certified document examiners and software experts.

But you can find out for yourself. Even an amateur can download the files and see that they are
layered and made up of different cut and paste documents.

 

No thats how desperate and crazy you are.

 

Bush was AWOL. That actually IS documented, or should I say, lack of documented.

 

Who are they? I would be most interested in reading this.

 

There is no doubt that at the time of his birth Obama was a British citizen.

Maybe you should try actually reading the constitution

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tell me about it

 

There is no doubt he is a US citizen that does not make him an NBC. The purpose of the NBC clause is to stop ANY foreign influence on our president. Being a British citizen is certainly is against this principle.

 

I've covered it in previous threads.

If you were truly interested in the truth, you could Google it and find out for yourself.

I am not a birther. I believe Obama, if that is his name, is an American citizen.

I thought like many that the birthers were stupid conspiracy nuts. So to play devil's advocate, I wanted to
prove that they were wrong. I set out to prove that the birth certificates were real. I found out the opposite.
They are fakes.

Here is the current open thread on the subject, which links to my original thread:

Obama's Birth Certificates are Fake

 

The whole idea of the birther term is to stifle any real debate. To shame one from speaking on it.

 

I have no idea how you think that helps you. first off, the case is about womens suffrage, not citizenship. second, you left off the very next line which is.......

the court was not making a ruling on citizenship. so minor is irrelevant.

there isn't a difference.

it did.

auto correct on my phone, I hate Iphones. and yes he was.

lol, birthers

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no document expert has ever declared his BC a forgery.

lol, birthers

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nope, that is your argument. if dual citizens can't be president(which is factually incorrect as we have had numerous)then all any country has to do is declare any child born in the US is also a citizen of their county and BAM, nobody is eligible anymore.

This is how bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy birthers are.

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he was born on US soil, which makes him a NBC. his parents could have been martian. it's irrelevant.

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in which you are thoroughly demolished.

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because birthers are an embarrassment to the human race. they make 9/11 truthers and moon landing nuts seem sane.

 

I dont think there is really a question that obama is an american citizens. Its just that some of his actions are so weak that they ultimately benefit other countries more which is why this comes up. Its just another facet of his incompetence.

 

Actually the opposite is true. No document expert has ever declared his birth certificates authentic, real, or valid.

 

nope. the highest qualified expert regarding Hawaiian birth certificates verified it's authenticity.

lol, birthers.

 

The court has not and can not define NBC. Its natural law they handle positive law.

then quote it. Its say Natural born not citizen at birth. The founders knew the difference.

Both his parents were born here as was he.

Your only proving my point with the endless birther BS

 

Yeah .. Incompetent … uh huh …
Like O'Bama getting Osama bin Laden,
getting one terror leader after another with drone strikes,
negotiating Iran's nuclear disarmament without firing a shot or sacrificing any American blood …

uh huh

 

I challenged liberals to prove me wrong. I said if they could prove that Obama's birth certificates were real
that I would ban myself from the forum. I'm still here. No certified document expert has ever validated
Obama's birth certificate. I have provided CDE's who say it is fake.

I have shown proof that both are fakes. Nobody has ever proven that I was wrong.

 

Navy Seals got Bin Laden thanks to waterboarding that Obama stopped.

 

there is no such thing as natural law. citizenship is a man made term for membership in a man made society. men decide what the criteria are for said membership. we decided anyone born inside our borders is a NBC. we also decided anyone born anywhere in the world to a citizen is also a NBC.

there is no difference.

who's parents?

how does refuting everything you've said so far prove your point? lol

 

I think this is what you kept repeating in the last thread. They aren't certified document examiners. In fact, they also
never say that the birth certificate that is on the website is the one they supplied to the president.

One of the officials even said they didn't know what it was they posted.