Should ANY books be banned in schools?

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  1. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    I would say I’m not worried about porn no. Is it a school subject though? Not really, maybe a mention in health ed. There’s better things to put on the shelf
     
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  2. chris155au

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    No. As you can see from the above quoted post, @3link was clearly being sarcastic.

    Do you also ask the same questions regarding the syllabus?

    Why do people need to have kids in order know, for example, that kids shouldn't have access to pornography?
     
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    we do a great many things to protect children and not encouraging deviant behavior should be among them. don't get me wrong - i'm a big fan of deviant behavior, but i don't think it is something that children need to be exposed to. i also hope that the usual suspects don't lose their minds over the term "deviant behavior". these are merely the behaviors that deviate from the norm, whether it be societal norms or those of form and function. then there is the problem of sexualizing children before they are ready for such things. does an eight year old really need to know the proper use of a dildo? is a twelve year old really equipped to make decisions like what sex he or she really prefers? childhood is difficult enough without adding adult pressures into the already volatile mix. even teenagers are often too immature to make decisions that could irrevocably affect the rest of their lives.
     
  4. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    "Not worried about porn" including in the context to kids of any age having access to it? If so, what in the hell is wrong with you man?
     
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    For the same reason we don't (or shouldn't) allow most kids to view certain content on TV, internet or on the streets... they don't have the mental capability to actually process what they are seeing/reading/hearing. And, as minds are developing, things taken out of context can be horribly distorted.

    One person may view bondage as 'art', but do children need to see it? Do they actually comprehend what it is? Why should a child 'need' to understand it?
     
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    I mean you aren't wrong. Plus with computers and cell phones they can access whatever they want really. I just draw the line (for me) at people sponsoring the behavior.
     
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    So if you google "Strap-on blowjob book in school" the first link will show what the book is. The link isn't my district and refers to a highschool, but its the same book they tried in my middleschool.
     
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    I have no issue with pornography if it is not violent. Yes, including for children to see.
     
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    Sure would basically be Protestants. In my eyes, at the end of the day Muslims, Jews, and Christians are all children of Abraham.
     
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    Just as an FYI, that would be a crime to provide said material to children.
     
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    I don't think it should be. So long as the children are not participants in the product. I don't think it did me any harm seeing playboys when I was underage. I see little basis for such a law. And I am very perplexed at how our society has a greater taboo over nudity and sex than violence.
     
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  12. Alwayssa

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    How do you define pornography? Some conservatives try to use the argument that anything with LGBTQ themes is pornography. Are national geographic magazines pornographic? Or here's an example, "let's make some noise" from the Bengles song, "Maniac Monday." Is that pornographic even though the line from the song I used was implicit in what that means? Or even the Book of Solomon whom he describes his wife Sheeba in great detail in his love letters or the Biblical version of sexting.

    Point is we need to define what is and what is not pornography before we start using political buzzwords to try to restrict any and all books based on those religious/moral codes that parents or others love to impose on others nowadays.
     
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    As I stated, I am not in favor of banning books, but putting age restrictions on certain books with adult content. Adult content to me is something that shows explicit violence, language, certain nudity in the story, and so forth such as what we have similar with movies from G, PG, PG-13, R, NC17, etc. We can do the same with books using the same general guidelines as with movies, more or less.

    OH, I think the commander rank of USN knows which books have and have not been banned. Again, LGBTQ theme books are not pornographic in nature, and neither are National Geographic Magazines either. But we do know that books such as 1984, Catcher on the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird, and other similar books have been banned, quite a bit actually. If you look at the top ten books that have been banned, all are classics.
     
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    In the US, porn sites can be free or subscription, at best you have to answer the question on the website or internet, "Are you 18? Yes or no?" with no serious verification whatsoever. Finally, kids are so tech savvy nowadays, any laws passed such as requiring ID verification at the movie theaters to be presented when R movies are shown is completely ridiculous in the same way I saw an elderly gentleman get carded, aka proof of ID, when purchasing beer at a convenience store because it is the law in Texas. That is where he is coming from. He is not worried because it is so widely available via the internet that it will be damn near impossible to regulate or police.
     
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    You'd spend many thousands of dollars on a private school because of "the strap on blow job book?" Hooohhh-Kayyyyy.

    Most folks would do better to explain to their kids about strap-ons and tell them at the same time money they would have spent on private schools is going into a 529 account.
     
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    Just simply unbelievable. Or maybe it's PERFECTLY believable.
     
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    Then you have serious problems and you are okay with sexualising kids.
     
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    Better school, smaller class sizes, no teachers board promoting wacko ideas. I think investing in your children's education is imperative to their success.
     
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    What does this have to do with school libraries?
     
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    What sort of sick twisted FREAK would talk to their kid about sex toys?
     
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    I'd be more concerned about my kid being exposed to religious claptrap than "strap-on" stories.
     
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    You do you!
     
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    I think we've got a lot of people in their thread who don't have children, commenting about what's appropriate for children. What's creepier is how a number here are for sexualizing them. Quite sick.
     
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    Better they learn from you (if you're up to it :roll: :roll:) than from the internet or the kid down the street.

    Your "twisted FREAK" comment about a parent explaining sex to a son or daughter is way out of the mainstream for most K-12 parents these days.
     
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    I don't have kids, but I do have plenty of nieces, nephews and even grands. There is a clear difference between an education in what 'sex' is, and sexualizing.
     

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