Shouldn't Islam Be Banned In the USA (asked of US citizens only)

The problem with that is that the OP thinks Islam is not a religion because he does not follow it. Apparently, he's never read the Quran so he just listens to whatever Fox news has to say and beleives that Islam is evil, just like they brainwash him into thinking.

 

Christianity puts itself above the US constitution as much as Islam does. The only slim argument for Christians to respect local laws above the Bible is a possibly sarcastic metaphor about giving the Roman emperor his due.

 

Beth Din has been a fixture in the US and Europe for 200 years.. Press on with your ignorant hysteria.

 

Amendments to the constitution override the original text. The first amendment came after the constitution was ratified, and therefore supersedes the supremacy clause.

 

Our country does not ban nationalities either , we are Americans Gods sake !!

 

It's not me who is suggesting that Islam (which is NOT a religion, and wouldn't matter if it was) be banned. It is the Supremacy Clause of the US Constitution that is suggesting it. I'm just the messenger.

The Supremacy clause (Article 6, Section 2) is in post # 38. Read it.

 

You refuse to comment on anyone's criticism of your legal argument.

 

I have read the Koran, and I also know a lot about Islamization, and if you think I don't, I'll give you a quiz on it, and we'll find out how much you do or don't know about it.

And you're not following the thread. I also said due to its supremacism, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF ISLAM IS A RELIGION OR NOT. See posts 11, 13, 16, 30, 38.

 

I don't refuse to comment on anything.

 

How would that demonstrate your own knowledge of the subject material? Moreover, how is this relevant to your bad legal argument?

 

LOLOLOL you are absolutely ridiculous.. Do you have to keep proving over and over again how ignorant you are?

 

Then you must agree with me that the right to pursue amendments to the constitution supersedes the supremacy clause, and therefore people are entitled to pursue Sharia-friendly amendments to the constitution.

 

1. 'm not sure if we currently ban nationalities, I'd have to check the immigration laws on that. We certainly did ban many nationalities in the past.

2. What does banning nationalities have to do with banning Islam ? (which doesn't even recognize nationalities)

 

Most Muslims in the US are American converts.. would you revoke their citizenship and deport them?

 

No America does not currently have any single nation banned from immigration. We ban individuals, not entire nations.

As much as you CLAIM that Islam is not a religion, it is.....It is legally recognized as one in America.....

I can say that Jediism is not a religion and Scientology, but they are legally recognized as one so what I say doesn't matter.....

 

People have the right to pursue anything. If one wanted to "pursue" a law giving Americans the right to beat their wives (legal under Sharia law- Koran 4:34). they could suggest it to become law. It currently is illegal, and 100% sure to stay that way, but if somebody wanted to make a complete ass of themself, there's no law against that. LOL

 

Actually in DC there is a law still on the books that says a man can beat his wife on the steps of the captial building on Sunday.....and it's a law that was drafted by CHRISTIANS, not Muslims...

 

I didn't say anything about what Islam is or isn't legally recognized as in America, I merely suggested that it be banned in America - this is for how things should become in the future, not how they currently are, and for the 10th time now, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF ISLAM IS A RELIGION OR NOT. Its supremacism is the issue, not whether it's a religion.

 

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Nope.. I am a Christian of Dutch descent.. My family arrived with the Dutch East Indies company.. .

 

There is also a law in DC (and everywhere in America) that forbids anyone beating anyone (BATTERY). Want to bet that if someone beats his wife on the steps of the captial building on Sunday.., he goes to jail for battery ? I'll bet he does. Let me know if you want to take that bet.

 

Actually, under the law I named, it can not be called battery, so battery laws do not override it.

 

Yes they do, including Muslims. They have the right to immigrate to the US legally, the right to become citizens, the right to exercise their political power to pursue changes to the laws and constitution of the United States. Just like anyone else. That means they have the right to live here, the right to speak freely, the right to organize in mosques. All of these rights are theirs as long as they act legally, within the bounds of the law as it stands today. And American Muslims do just that. You may not like it, you may disagree with their politics, but that does not justify removing them from the country.

And that is exactly the way that they would seek to enact Sharia law in the US... through the same legal system and political system that allows any other group of people to try to enact any other laws they want. All it requires is that they get a supermajority of the American people to agree with them.

Right. So clearly the supremacy clause does not justify banning Islam, so long as the Muslims are willing to abide by the current law while they pursue their goals.

 

Yeah ? And which do you say that might be ? (PS - hope you don't mind if I take a little time for lunch)

 

"You people" ? LOL. Which people are those ? I'm very much in favor of social services (I collect Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, and soon will get VA checks too). I'm not angainst any of it. As for right-wing idiots, I must not be one of them since my economic positions are far to the left of even very liberal democrats.

And there's plenty of well-known people on the left who have expressed opposition to Islam and its pushy Islamization in America too > examples are Harry Reid, Howard Dean, Chuck Schumer, Bill Maher, Geraldo Rivera, Juan Williams, at al). Maybe you ought stick to sufing Surfer Joe, and leave the Islam talk to those who know its much more than some right-wing thing.

 

No you don't have to ask yourself what's next. All you need to ask is what is supremacist over the Constitution. And all you need to do is answer the one correct answer to that > Islam. When nothing else is supremacist over the Constitution there's no need to ban it, and it has no fear of being banned.