Simple question: Why has Ray Epps not been arrested for inciting the Jan 6 'insurrection?'

Albeit, ineffective as a defense against multiple indictments.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/25/us/politics/dc-jail-tour-jan-6-defendants.html

Now you can go visit them yourself.....well actually you can't, because our shitty corrupt government won't allow it.

You don't hold people for months, years, multiple years for misdemeanors. It's ****ing rigged. The election was rigged, these people's rights have been violated, the left-wing federal bureaucracy is out of control and we have these dumbass conversations on message boards whereby half the people know what's going on but are afraid to speak out (the censorship works) and the other half is either too stupid or isn't stupid at all but they agree with the government rigging the elections and jailing people.....because it's the side they want to win.

I have no respect for the latter group and very little for those who don't speak out but know.

 

Lol the amount of space that man occupies in your mind is funny.

I hope he wins in 2024

 

Some don't like people being concerned for election integrity, our system of justice, and respect for the truth, but I hope he does not.

 

yeah to the point they pretend the 2020 election was completely on the level. you don't like people being concerned about election integrity.

So you also don't support the integrity of our justice system.

 

All 50 states certified their election results, after audits, recounts, and dozens of court challenges.

The loser couldn't handle it, lied about a stolen "Landslide!", tried to make the Vice President defy the Constitution, incited a goon attack on Congress, hatched a fake elector scheme, and tried to intimidate Republican governors and secretaries of state into falsifying the vote totals.

The Loser's contempt for democracy wasn't enough to overcome the will of the People.

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Are you not saying that having a Democratic President and AG might be the reason that Epps has so far managed to get away with it?

 

Over 1000 prosecutions specifically for seditious conspiracy?

 

The idea has crossed my mind.

 

Why don't you tell us? What part do you think was illegal, and what connection do you see between this man and that?

If you aren't willing to get into specifics, how can you expect someone else to waste their time bothering to get into specifics to answer a question from you?

 

Proof?

 

Delete

 

So indictments to try and prevent democracy is it contempt for democracy? What about when he won in 2016 there is a lot of contempt for democracy.

Seems you only supported when your party wins.

 

As I noted, the Republican candidate won in 2016 and lost in 2020.

I readily accepted the reality in both instances.

The loser is lying to you.

 

What did I lie about?

 

Just two days after the attack, when Mr. Epps saw himself on a list of suspects from Jan. 6, he called an F.B.I. tip line and told investigators that he had tried to calm Mr. Samsel down when they spoke, according to three people who have heard a recording of the call. Mr. Epps went on to say that he explained to Mr. Samsel that the police outside the building were merely doing their jobs, the people said.

Then in late January of last year, in an interview with the F.B.I., Mr. Samsel said much the same thing, telling investigators that a man he did not know came up to him at the barricades and suggested he relax, according to a recording of the interview obtained by The New York Times.

“He came up to me and he said, ‘Dude’ — his entire words were, ‘Relax, the cops are doing their job,’” Mr. Samsel said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/jan-6-ray-epps-evidence.html

Doesn't sound like someone instigating a riot.

So.............simple question...........do you think giving Epps the Tucker Carlson treatment calls in to question anything we know about 1/6? If I were Tucker I might ask.............why are you attempting to obfuscate what happened on 1/6? Are you being paid to sow doubt about it? What is your real agenda here?

 

I told you that the loser is lying to you.

He lost the 2020 presidential election, and he persists in crapping on democracy because he lost and can't handle it.

 

@Natty Bumpo
""hatched a fake elector scheme, and tried to intimidate Republican governors and secretaries of state into falsifying the vote totals.""

Trump followed the law.... Electoral Count Act of 1887 is a law on the books for 135 years.... educate yourself and get back to us.. The Democrats had to scramble to change that law to fit their agenda after the fact...
Why did the Democrats change the law that has been on the books for 135 years.. it was not because ONLY Trump did it... "In four of the past six presidential elections, the Electoral Count Act’s process for counting electoral votes has been abused"

"First, it reasserts that the constitutional role of the Vice President in counting electoral votes is strictly and solely ministerial. (because it did not prior) The idea that any Vice President would have the power to unilaterally accept, reject, change, or halt the counting of electoral votes is antithetical to our Constitutional structure and basic democratic principles. "

""In four of the past six presidential elections, the Electoral Count Act’s process for counting electoral votes has been abused, with members of both parties raising frivolous objections. But it took the violent breach of the Capitol on January 6th of 2021 to really shine a spotlight on the urgent need for reform. ""




The Democrats did the same thing in 2000, 2004, 2017.... please stop posting misleading and untruthful posts

January 6, 2017.... seven House Democrats tried to object to electoral votes from multiple states.
Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) objected to Alabama's votes.
Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) objected to Florida's votes.
Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) objected to Georgia's votes.
Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) objected to North Carolina's votes.
Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) objected to the votes from North Carolina in addition to votes from South Carolina and Wisconsin. She also stood up and objected citing "massive voter suppression" after Mississippi's votes were announced.
Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) brought up allegations of Russian interference in the election and malfunctioning voting machines when she objected following the announcement of Michigan's votes.
Maxine Waters (D-Calif) rose and said, "I do not wish to debate. I wish to ask 'Is there one United States senator who will join me in this letter of objection?'" after the announcement of Wyoming's votes.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-democrats-object-more-states-2016-republicans-2020-1561407

 

@Natty Bumpo
""hatched a fake elector scheme, and tried to intimidate Republican governors and secretaries of state into falsifying the vote totals.""

It seemed to be a none issue when the Democrats did it....

In January 2017, Reps. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., Barbara Lee, D-Calif., Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, Raúl Grijalva, D-Ariz., Maxine Waters, D-Calif., and Jim McGovern, D-Mass., all objected to electoral votes for Trump. Now nearly all of them have joined the chorus against those who objected to votes for Biden.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ho...ion-results-fight-republicans-2020-challenges

 

Trump, who is not above the law, will, like every other American citizen, have ample opportunity to respong the charges against him in the various legal venues that prosecute him.

His hysterically raging against officers of the court whenever he is charged will have no impact on his trials.

In the meantime, enjoy your orange Kool-Aid®.

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"Trump, who is not above the law"
and Trump is intitled to equal justice under law.... seems that is missed by most liberals on here...

But I do notice.... this keeps the liberals from having to talk about the current president and his son being above the law...

 

Trump has been cited for his violations of the law by an Attorney General, a Special Counsel, and an FBI Director, none of whom is one of the "liberals" that infest your noggin. None has ever been a Democrat, and the latter is a Republican appointed by Trump. All the principle witnesses against him are Republicans. His hysterically attacking anyone who does not indulge him is childish, and has no bearing on the cases against him.

Stop maligning American democracy and jurisprudence, and allow juries of his peers to assess the evidence and reach verdicts on Trump's culpability.

Your desperate attempt at diversion is feeble.

 

And president Joe Biden HAS NOT been cited for his violations of the law by an Attorney General, a Special Counsel, and an FBI Director. Are you seeing the difference?

 

How does he escape culpability? Either he's a fed OR, more likely, he is just someone the feds paid to incite (which would make it not quite an untruth when they say he wasn't a fed). I bet when he learned he was on the most wanted list and "immediately called the FBI" the conversation was to let them know that one of their agents had paid him to instigate and to inform them that if they didn't take his name off pronto, he'd be contacting the news media. Which they don't want because it makes it look like the FBI incited this.

 

Can you name one person who was charged for doing exactly what Epps did? I'm sorry, but this just seems to feed into a really, really dumb conspiracy theory.