Sources say MH17 report blames Russian missile for shooting down plane

Do YOU, Jeanette know that CBS News is not covering the fires and demonstrations in Athens.
Go figure.

Could it be, oh I don't know, maybe - possibly,

Multi National Corporation - Government News Control!​

I miss Walter Cronkite!

Moi

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The Dutch intellectuals apologized before Putin for lie about MH17, Syria and Ukraine

"Dear mister president Putin,

Please, take our apologies on behalf of very many people in the Netherlands, for our government and our mass media. The facts connected with MH17 are distorted with the purpose to discredit you and your country.

We are powerless observers, seeing as the western countries, led by the United States, accuse Russia of crimes which they commit more often than someone another. We reject the double standards applied to Russia and the West. In our society charge requires enough proofs. How you and your country unsubstantially are accused of "crimes" – ruthlessly and meanly...
(Professor Cis Heymlink)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmixednews.ru%2Farchives%2F63733

 

lol!!!! the author must be a tool for Putin, and on the KBG payroll.

 

Russian posters.... Russia has publicly stated the Plane was brought down by a BUK system. If the Dutch figured the trajectory, they figured out it was the Rebels. So just admit the rebels made a mistake, the airline made mistake by flying in war zone that is it. If its a false flag, then it was a bad one since nothing changed after that event on the ground.

 

The airplane didn't make a mistake as the flightplan was created and authorized by the air control authority. In low level intensity conflict, civilian airplane are authorized to fly over the theater of operation if they respect a minimal altitude which that airplane did. This was reported extensively at the time of the incident.

 

Again Airline had option of changing the flight plan, they did not. Just because it is authorized does not mean it is smart.

 

Last time a Malaysian changed course they lost the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) plane. We're still searching for it.

 

Except professor, the group of other intellectuals subscribed. Several months ago, the German intellectuals also made. Constantly appear more and more, such agents of Putin. It is good

 

MH17 couldn’t be shot from rebel areas, West pressuring investigators – Russian Air Agency

Malaysian flight MH17 couldn’t have been shot by a ground-to-air missile from the areas controlled by eastern Ukrainian rebels, said Russian Federal Air Transport Agency, adding that West is putting pressure upon investigators to get the conclusions it wants.​

As the Intelligence Agent told Robert Parry of Consortium News, everything points to an extremist group in Kiev....which of course would be Kolomoisky with his private 'Nazi' armies. He owns airlines so he is very familiar with the airports, and he is under suspicion of being behind the burning and massacres of the protesters in Odessa.

 

I read on Vineyard of the Saker the day before the plane was shot down, that the Ukrainian army was trapped and had been given a twenty four hour ultimatum to surrender with certain conditions. The Saker was waiting for the news of the Ukrainian surrender, when the plane was shot down. The army was able to free itself because of the commotion and the adverse propaganda coming from Kiev and Washington.

The possibility also exists that there was a political reason for the Malaysian plane being shot down, and that it might have been a deliberate attack by another country...otherwise why is the Dutch government being so secretive, and why weren't they allowing the Malaysians to be part of the investigation. I read in an Asian newspaper that Malaysia was combining the investigation of both airliners.

 

bravo!!!!!!

 

There is another leak. This leak says it was likely an Israeli air to air missile.

http://www.rt.com/news/310039-mh17-israeli-missile-version/

 

it was a BUK missile

 

prove it with evidence.

 

Of course, the rebels could shoot down the airplane. The same as Ukrainian forces could do the same. Nevertheless, minutes after the crash all western media brought down tons of hysterical comments and articles blaming Russia and Putin personally. From the first beginning they didn't have a purpose to find out who has to be charged for this aircrash, but just used the occasion for political reasons, to blame Russia. Besides, discussion on sanctions against Russia between USA and EU was were on the top at that moment, so the MH17 was the decisive argument which finally broke the reserved position of European countries which wasn't happy to take part at trade war against Russia. So, one can say the USA had the direct benefit from the MH17 aircrash, unlike Russia and Europe, what leads to certain suspicions.
Besides, there are some serious questions to Ukraine. Why Ukrainian aircontrol did not close airspace over Donbass where the military actions were going on for several months and where several military aircrafts were shot down just days before July, 17? Why Ukraine still has not released radio talks between MH17 crew and Dnepropetrovsk air control which led the airplane?
Ukraine today joined to western demands on creation of international court on MH17. But I would ask Ukrainian government - why you are so concerned about 298 foreigners who died (yes, absolutely innocent people who have absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine and Ukrainian war!) - I would ask Ukrainian president Poroshenko - why he pours crocodile tear on 298 foreigners while his own compatriots are still dying every day? Who is more close to him, actually? Much more Ukrainian citizens died after MH17 aircrash, thousands of people were killed by Ukrainian artillery and by their Nazi batallions. Did mr. Poroshenko demand to establish an international court on Donbass? Or maybe such an idea is not convenient for current Ukrainian authorities as then they have to take responsibility for many-many war crimes against Donbass residents?
And one more thought. Nobody in the West protested when Ukrainain air forces started to bomb cities and villages in Donbass. The West didn't blame Ukraine for killings people by Ukrainian airplanes. Nobody cared if Ukrainian Su-25 may fly and strike the center of Lugansk with antipersonnel missiles.
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They started to worry only after the airliner from Holland was shot down. But if Ukraine did not start to use military aviation at thi so-called "anti-terrorism operation", if Ukrainian airplanes did not bomb and kill civilians in Donets and Lugansk, nobody would use anti-aircraft missiles to shoot these planes, and the MH17 would not crash.

 

How bout you post some actual evidence that the Ukrainian army was "surrounded and about to surrender" seeing as it is NOT true. And how exactly would propaganda from the west keep the revels from supposedly finishing off the surrounded Ukrainians? If they already had then surrounded and about to surrender how exactly did newspaper articles in Kiev make help them escape?

Next you'll be telling us about how it was "shot down so that it would crash in a specific location so Ukraine could invade and kill all the ethic Russians there to drill for oil" or some bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

there is no such evidence

 

You're ignoring U.S. motives. Who gains from such a propaganda victory?

 

quo bono, isn't evidence.


never has been, never will be

 

1. Russia did the exact same thing you accuse the west of. In fact Russia even accused the CIA of a false flag attack just 2 days after the Russian terrorists shot down the plane.

2. There is plenty of evidence to give the west cause to blame Russians their terrorists servants. Like the terrorist leader who posted on social media boasting about shooting down the damn plane minutes after they did it! Why did the west put the blame on Russia and not the "rebels"? Because Russia IS responsible. Thier terrorists, thier equipment, thier orders, thier war that they started when they invaded thier neighbor. See?

3. Because the people that are unfortunately being killed in eastern Ukraine are dying as a result of Russia invading Ukraine. Ukraine is naturally fighting back rather then just sitting there and taking it in the ass like you want them to. Of course there will be innocent casualties. Sucks but that's reality. Do you blame the French or British or USSR soldiers and governments for the civilians that died by thier hand when they were fighting back the Nazis after they invaded thier countries? Then why would you blame Ukraine for fighting back against a Russia invasion?

 

yes they did.

they accused America of trying to shoot Putin out of the sky.

 

But ... dude. The evidence is very circumstantial. It's not beyond a reasonable doubt "proof". I've seen this sort of propaganda many times and it's always the same. From Caracas to Tel Aviv.

 

I just love the utter hypocrisy coming from these fools. "The west started blaming Russia days after the attack, so that must mean that the U.S. Was responsible!" How (*)(*)(*)(*)ing retarded are they? And they don't even acknowledge that thier own media did the exact same thing at the exact same time!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17#Russian_media_coverage

On the evening following the crash, the lifenews.ru portal released a statement saying that a "Ukrainian Air Force An-26 transport plane" had been shot down by a missile and crashed.[305] ITAR-TASS and RIA Novosti had also reported that an An-26 had been shot down by the militia (separatists) near Torez at around 16:00 local time.

The Russian government-funded[308] outlet RT initially said that the plane may have been shot down by Ukraine in a failed attempt to assassinate Vladimir Putin, in a plot which was organised by Ukraine's "Western backers".[309][310] Other theories propagated by Russian media include: that the Ukrainians shot down the plane in a botched attempt at mass murder of Russian citizens or by mistake (reported twice, in July[311] and in December[312]); that Ukrainian air traffic controllers purposefully redirected the flight to fly over the war zone; and that the Ukrainian government organised the attack on the plane to bring infamy upon the pro-Russian rebels

On 15 November, Russia's Channel One reported on a supposedly leaked spy satellite photo which shows the plane being shot from behind by a Ukrainian fighter jet.[321][322] Many other Russian media reprinted the photo. The authenticity of the photo was quickly debunked by online commentators, using supporting evidence

 

Yet these trolls will never acknowledged any of this other then to say that it's just "more western propaganda" like