Tea Party causes Payroll Tax Increase

Why did Democrats insist on raiding the SS fund, which is already broke? Why did they attach that crap to the bill, instead of cutting something from their bloated budget?

 

You know what would help pay for that extended payroll tax break?

How about extending that tax break for 12 months. . .and compensating it by extending the payroll tax (which currently are taken only on the first $112,000 or so of payroll) to ALL income, including the $20 millions income?

EVERYONE (including the millionaires) would benefit from the payroll tax cut on the first $112,000 of their salary.. .which might take them throught he first 3 days of 2012, but they would have to keep paying that reduced tax the whole year. . .just as people who only make $100,000 a year have to do!

That would take care of the "payroll tax" issue. . .and might even fix Social security!

 

Ive given up asking that since they never give me a straight answer.

 

Press on my friend, press on.

I love rubbing their faces in it.

 

Not surprising. And Obama is actually trying to run against Congress, when his Senate is the problem. That's how desperate he is.

 

Don't be ridiculous! Even you know that EVERY WORKER pays payroll taxes. . . and that the lowest the income, the more tax they pay in proportion of their income!

A worker who only makes $50,000 a year will pay payroll taxes on EVERY PENNY he makes.

A worker who makes $500,000 a year will ONLY pay payroll taxes on the first $112,000 of their income. . .so, proportionally, they pay less payroll tax as the lowest salaried workers.

And EVERYONE pays State taxes, and County taxes, and sales taxes, and DMV taxes, and tax on gas!

The ONLY tax some people whose income is very low do not pay is FEDERAL taxes. . .you know. . .those same taxes that the wealthy mostly avoid by making capital investments, or taking advantages of loopholes?

 

And what else do the Republicans want? A forced, hasty decision on the pipeline without allowing time for environmental and other reports for one? Just push it through without having all the facts - like the Patriot Act?

Do you honestly think people aren't going to notice that there's more to it than just the payroll tax cut - or aren't YOU aware of that?

 

The bottom 48% are the only ones that arent "sacrificing ANYTHING"

The top 1% are sacrificing more that everyone else, expressed as a percentage AND as a dollar amount.

Lets not tell lies

 

We have hundreds, if not thousands, of these pipelines already. We don't need a stupid environmental impact study. They have been done many, many times. This is just the excuse Obama spoon feeds to his dribbling fans. The real reason he doesn't want this job creating project is because he doesn't want to (*)(*)(*)(*) off his far-left environmental whackjob voting block. He needs their votes next year. His venture into the center was a failure, so he's retreating back to the group he knows will always love and support him, the far left.

 

Tea Party causes Payroll Tax Increase


Are Liberals crazy? Less than two weeks ago they blamed Republicans and the Tea Party for not wanting to pay more taxes, saying we need to get rid of Bush's tax cuts. Well now it looks like the Tea Party and Republicans are going to let Americans pay more taxes on Jan.1,2012, and now your complaining they are doing what you said they should do. Can't you people make up your mind? Talk about flip flopping.

 

Shared sacrifice. Put your money where your mouth is. They don't pay federal taxes at all, but they want higher taxes, so here is their opportunity! You libs should be celebrating.

 

Well said and absolutely the truth!!!!!!!!

 

YOU ARE WRONG!

Why don't you post your sources showing that the top 1% is sacrificing ANYTHING!

Have you heard about the cuts to housing and heating assistance to low income people and elderlies? Do you think they are in the top 1%?

Compare the increase in income over the last 10 years in the top 1%, and in the bottom 40%. . .and tell me who has been "sacrificed" to the greed of the top 1%?

 

Post your sources then.

 

That was easy.

Top 1% pays ~38% of the ENTIRE Federal tax burden. Top 10% pay over 70%. Bottom 50% pay 2.25%.

Shared sacrifice. Your OWS rhetoric is stale, your movement is on the ropes.

 

The state of Nebraska was the last objector and they are now satisfied and the Governor has called for the project to mover forward.

But let's not hear Obama claim he is doing everything he can to create jobs, this proves that is NOT true. There is NO reason to hold this project up denying all those people jobs they desperately need.

 

Isn't it funny how liberals don't give a single (*)(*)(*)(*) about the poor people without jobs who would be helped by this project? They would happily pay this payroll tax hike if they had the ability.

 

From the OP:


"The Senate hammered out the two-month deal as a bipartisan compromise, Obama said, with the two months to be used to find the best way to finance a one-year extension."

"Obama accused House Republicans of playing politics with the payroll tax cut. He did not specify the Republican "faction" at fault, but White House aides have pointed the finger at Tea Party Republicans. He also said some Republicans are using the impasse to "wring concessions from Democrats on issues that have nothing to do with the payroll tax cut, issues where the parties fundamentally disagree."

"House Republicans say they want to extend the payroll tax holiday for all of 2012, not just for two months; Democrats say the two-month plan has bipartisan support, and is a stopgap measure so that lawmakers can negotiate how best to pay for continuing the year-long tax cut."


If all you know about the bill is the difference between 2 months and 12 and you don't even know what that difference is or what else is contained in the bill that the Republicans are trying to sneak through - their main reason for trying to rush it - you need to do some more reading on the issue.

Republicans are NEVER interested in helping the poor and middle class. Their main objective here is to push through the Keystone Pipeline for the benefit of their corporate donors and the big paychecks they'll get from them as a result.

 

That is so fake! OBVIOUSLY the top 1% who makes millions will pay the largest burden of taxes. . .they alsow take the overwhelming majority of the money!

And, the top 20% (but more specifically the top 1%) has increased it's income greatly over the years, while the bottom 20% have stagnated and the middle 60 % have barely increased their real income.

Here is the source:

 

No - and I complained long and loud about it when Bush was borrowing every billion needed to support the war in Iraq from China for the entire time he was in office. Did YOU? And if you read the OP, you'd know that the 2 month extension is to allow for time to figure out how the 1 year extension is going to be paid for. So which do YOU think is better - to push through a 1 year extension with no idea how it's going to be paid for and at the same time, saddle ourselves with the Keystone Pipeline that environmental and other studies haven't been completed on but the Repubs are desperate to push through under any circumstances for their corporate donors - or extend for 2 months, get all the facts and then have an informed vote and know EXACTLY what we're getting?

Exactly what I would expect from a Conservative - if poor people don't have the cash because their unemployment benefits are ended and their paychecks are going to be cut, just let them eat cake? People in their financial positions CAN'T run up massive debt because most of them no longer have any credit. Lmfao!

 

Most of the Conservatives discussing this here tonight appear to have very little idea what they're talking about. They think it's just a difference between 2 and 12 months and the Repubs are trying to push it through out of the goodness of their hearts and their concern for the poor and middle class. You need to take another look at who's doing the deceiving and find the truth on your own if you can't get it from your political gurus.

 

I think the answer to that is "All of the above". LOL!

 

No - I think whoever I was responding to said that if you just change "lib" to "republican" and "republican" to "lib".

 

So you want Obama and the Commies to crash the Social Security fund? That's what they're trying to do to you.

 

Then why not take the time to get the needed environmental and other reports and be sure it isn't going to be money down another hole before we jump into it? Why are the Repubs trying to force it through? Do they have something to hide that we don't know about? Just because Repubs and their corporate donors SAY it will create thousands of jobs and won't cause any environmental damage to the massive amounts of farmland they're going to take to build it or the people they're going to take it from, we should just take their word for it?

It'd be interesting to know how many Republican Congressmen own some of that land we're going to be paying premium prices for to build that pipeline, wouldn't it - how many of them are going to profit millions of dollars from their prior knowledge of where it will be built and their ability to push it through into law?