The AR15 is, for all intents and purposes, an M16

The AR-15 is NOT a "military weapon". No Army in the world uses it, mainly because it does not fire FULL AUTO.

Ever see a woman's "hair extension"? It makes a woman look like she has a lot more hair than she really has. But she doesn't. An AR-15 is like that. It LOOKS like it is military. But it isn't.

 

But it can still be fired very rapidly because of the minimal recoil, right?

"The AR-15 is, by design, easier to shoot accurately and rapidly than a typical hunting rifle because it mitigates recoil. The standard AR-15 bullet, as previously stated, carries kinetic energy of 1300 foot pounds; a typical hunting rifle bullet has between 2600 and 4000 foot pounds, meaning it has greater recoil. The excessive recoil of a hunting rifle precludes rapid firing on target, because of the obligatory motion of the gun and its impact on the shooter. But the moderate energy of the AR-15 allows shooting on target literally as rapidly as the trigger can be pulled, while providing ample bullet speed to inflict lethal wounds."
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...designed-kill-efficiently-possible-ncna848346

 

SCOTUS has already vacated two existing state AWBs; they're just waiting on those two cases, Miller v Bonta and Bianchi v Frosh, to be decided or get back to SCOTUS. SCOTUS granted cert to the plaintiffs of both of those cases already.

 

The AR series of rifles is available in over 100 calibers. Which ones are you talking about?

Are these low recoil?

https://gundigest.com/rifles/ar-15/5-top-big-bore-ars-cartridges/amp

Does low recoil make a firearm bannable?

 

.338 Norma does not have low recoil.
And will take down elephants.

 

How many M16s have you seen for sale at Walmart?

 

They don't sell AR-15s, either.

 

Our Walmart does not sell pistol ammunition and they even quit carrying BB pistols for some reason.

 

They used to. BFD.

 

Recoil has never been a factor in rate of fire or accuracy for me. Some insignificant level of comfort? Possibly. I suspect you have read a lot about shooting but have no actual experience with it.
Recoil would have no influence on rate of fire if you weren't worried about accuracy. If accuracy isn't an issue, recoil is immaterial. The whole reason for using a emi-auto weapon in hunting is that if you use a bolt action, you have to remove the weapon from your shoulder a bit (losing the "stock weld" in order to manipulate the bolt and advance the next round. This means you totally lose your sight picture. You have to start all over acquiring the target, aiming and so forth. With a semi-auto, you can maintain your stock weld, maintain your sight picture and rapidly take a second shot. A bolt action gives the deer time to run away.
May I suggest you take some time to actually get some experience firing a rifle or two? That way you can discuss the subject from a user's perspective as I just did, rather than an academic researcher's perspective. Users talk about cause and effect. Academic researchers who have limited or no actual experience handling a gun quote foot pounds of energy and similar things gleaned in the library rather than the range. Shooting is like riding a bicycle. Its much better to learn about it by doing it than just reading about it.

 

Even with it's light recoil, rapid firing can become very inaccurate.

The AR-15, chambered in .223 has 4.75 foot pounds of recoil. Your source infers that there is no recoil.

The source you posted is another anti-gun bullshit lie.

 

Good point.

So, all those low recoil .22s are now "assault weapons" ???

Thanks for the update.

 

Even .22LR versions are "assault weapons".

 

Apparently, the gun ban scheme du jour is to create an arbitrary "prohibited list" of firearms to be banned and then add to it every year until all firearms are banned.

The object of this fraud is to play on America's copious gullibility until all Americans have been effectively disarmed.

Of course, when this scheme failed to reduce our homicide rate, additional guns will be banned until the only civilians / subjects that own firearms are hardened criminals.

Thanks,

 

M-16's are subject to special qualification and registration, and a $200 tax stamp. That's because they are fully automatic. One trigger pull- shoots until you release the trigger or run out of ammo.
An AR-15 are semi-automatic. One trigger pull, one shot. There are a substantial number of semi-automatic rifles that are the equivalent of the AR. The calibers cover the entire range up to and including .50 BMG.
the AR is a .22 caliber, center fire, with a small but fast bullet.

They are not assault rifles; the ATF has said so. The term "assault rifle" seem to be popular with the anti-gun people, because it demonizes whatever it is applied to. And looking the same is hardly a qualification. It's popular not because it has a military look, but because it is the most versatile design ever made for a semi-auto rifle, and that has made it the most common rifle. The saying "If it looks like a duck, it's probably a duck.... doesn't apply.

What's more, statistics show that more people are murdered each year with fists and feet than with all long guns of all calibers combined. You see the AR in shootings because it is by far and away the most common design around, which is no different than seeing you see more wrecks involving Fords than BMW's in your town.

The name "AR" does not stand for "Assault Rifle" or "Automatic Rifle" as many like to believe either. It's the name of the original maker- the Armalite Rifle company. It was designed in the 1950's, but the military didn't buy it. Armalite licensed the design to Colf, who in the 60's brought out a similar design that was fully automatic, the M-16, which was sold to the military.

 

I'd rather repeal the NFA. And the GCA.

 

The Biden Administration, through the nonsense going on over in the BATFE, may effectively do this for us .

 

That would mean that there may not be any fee required for full auto / select fire firearms and suppressors....

Where do I sign the petition?

 

yeah the hughes amendment only exists due to the NFA. If the NFA is obliterated then the hughes amendment evaporates because it merely said that private citizens cannot own autos registered after May 19, 1986 and it is the NFA that required that registration

 

That would be great.

 

The AR-15 is just a rifle there's nothing particularly magical about it.

It seems to have been memeed into something more than ever was but that's probably because a lot of people are talking about it and bringing it into consciousness.

But any other City automatic 223 caliber rifle works fundamentally exactly the same.

 

Another difference is the M16 can attach a grenade launcher becoming the M203. The AR-15 can’t do this as far as I know. You have Automatic fire and a grenade launcher with the M16/M203. The M203 replaced the old M79 of my era.

 

gun banners usually don't know guns. they know politics and who owns guns. Most don't know what an AUG or a Arsenal SAM etc is

 

You’re missing one of the largest factors that separates the two. One is fully auto and the other just a semi auto. There are semi auto hunting variants of the same round as well. In fact that round is one of the weakest rounds you can buy. So if the round scares you then you really need to do some research on what’s out there.

 

Select fire is a big thing. And the AR-15 semi auto has never been used in war so it’s not a weapon of war. The 45-70 was used in war more than the AR-15 in fact a musket was used in war more than an AR-15. Are they also weapons of war? What is an assault weapon anyway? Is it something used offensively? In that case a musket, 45-70, 308, 30.06, .223, .556, shotguns, and much more are all assault rifles.