The Earth is Flat

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  1. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

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    Sailor's have went around the planet more than once in our history unless they are all lying I would call that proof, plus we have gone into space and its clearly round.
     
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    That is your claim, not mine, so it is your responsibility to prove it.
     
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    You said “all images of space are CGI (computer graphic image), nasa admits this.”. It was NASA admitting it that I was asking for proof of (remember, that’s admitting that all images of space are CGI).

    You’d claim any image presented is CGI regardless and it’s impossible to prove a negative. That’s why I’m focusing on evidence for the shape of the Earth that you could personally go out and experience.

    In as much as there is no proof of anything. There is lots of evidence supporting the shape of the Earth though, more than sufficient to put it beyond reasonable doubt (just because you ignore, dismiss or don’t understand the evidence doesn’t change anything). There is also no solid hypothesis for any alternative which has anything like as much supporting evidence (if any).

    I’ve no idea. I don’t even know what I’m looking at there – it’s just a random picture (and the image could be CGI after all ;) ). If you want a technical/scientific answer you need to present a technical/scientific question (preferably to people with the appropriate expertise to answer it, which in this context, isn’t me).

    Not come up with an spin on the day/night cycle yet?
     
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    Why can I get a GPS signal in places cellphones don't work?
     
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    Then explain how GPS works.
     
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    No, the pictures don't show a perfect sphere. The imperfections of earth aren't much. They are not visible without accurate measurement.

    The difference between the radius of the earth at the equator and at the poles is about 21 km. The average radius of the earth is about 6371 km. That means the eccentricity of the earth from a sphere is only about 0.3%--not enough to see with the eye, without very accurate measurements.
     
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    satellites fly around the earth, not back and forth a flat earth

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    Actually, a lot of them don't even think they exist. In fact they believe rockets can't work in a vacuum.
     
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    The ancient Greeks accurately measured the earth's circumference by measuring the angle of the sun's rays throughout the day.
     
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    I think the earth in it's entirety can be considered a globe, the bottom half would be land, and the top half would be the firmament. I doubt you will, but you should watch this video and tell me where he goes wrong. You must watch it as if we have been deceived. When he talks about a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels. Meaning when they did attempt to go to the moon, they found the truth or the firmament the Bible talks about, and instead of telling the people there is indeed a creator, they chose to keep that truth and hide it from us. Therefore they would be men of understanding and would attain unto wise counsels. They know the truth, but we don't, giving them power to stay in power, because we follow their wise counsels.

    Also, when he says God cannot see through the thick clouds, how could he see the bottom of the globe from above on the circle of the earth? Can't see through the clouds, can't see through the earth. If you watch you will see.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NRYJk30m_E
     
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    No thanks, I can think of better ways to spend a half an hour. How about you watch it objectively.

    Except that is not what Proverbs 1:5 means. http://www.letgodbetrue.com/proverbs/commentaries/01_05.php

    I though Jehovah was omnipresent.
     
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    Nowhere in the Bible does it say the earth is flat. This guy has some brilliant logic.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zOLm1ItqK0c
     
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    The Bible does not say the earth is flat literally. However through definitions of God's words, it does. This is also compatible with a lot of the Bible, forcing research on definitions for a conclusion. It seems God wants to make sure his people want the truth, without just giving it all to them. Did you really watch that video I linked, or did you just say screw it, because there is just no way. If you just didn't watch it because it opposes the current theory, why then challenge anything your told from peoples of high counsel? This caliber of deception would lead to world dominance, such as just about any deception that allows the teaching thereof. If the only way to graduate is by acknowledging a lie from the leaders of high counsel, not only will you have the country adhering to it, but you will also be able to deceive and lie in all categories. Such as, for America to pay off it's debt we have to raise the debt ceiling. UUUHHHHH, how does this work again? Just don't worry about it, it's the only way, go back to your entertainment.

    If you are against God and apart of them. Why wouldn't you say that the Bible does say the earth is flat, and then prove it wrong by proving the globe earth, thus proving the Bible wrong. This is not done, because the earth cannot be proven as a globe, and the Bible will never be proven wrong.
     
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    If you are against the God of the Bible, why not admit it says the earth is flat. Then if you ever prove it's a globe, you prove the Bible wrong. This should be a slam dunk for the unfaithful, only problem is, they can't prove the globe. Does this not make you at least question. For if the God of the Bible could be undoubtedly proven, would you not want to hear?
     
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    The Bible doesn't say the earth is flat period. Did you watched the video?
     
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    Neil deGrasse Tyson disagrees with you, he says the earth is more like a pear shape.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...6DDB31A93502DEED26B96DDB31A93502D&FORM=VRDGAR

    However all the official images of earth are in complete conflict with this. Are all these lies starting to catch up with each other? And if it cannot be seen with the eye, why say that it's a pear shape, I mean you can't see it?
     
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    So when the Sun stopped in the sky for a day for Joshua.....the Earth stopped rotating on its axis?
     
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    It's software like anything else. Brought to you by, fiber optic, dsl, cell towers fed by either. It's software, why does it take a satellite to program it. Could one not take all the maps of the country and program a software to detect where your at? I'm sure there are numerous ways, why do you feel one needs a satellite that should be seen by the thousands in earth images, but is not? For instance, have you seen the time lapse video of earth? Where are all the satellites? If they are above the one being used, use the highest one. They can't because they are lying to you.
     
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    Can you prove the earth is flat?
     
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    uh, the earth has been proven a globe, and the bible has been proven wrong, so...............
     
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    How old does a person have to be to post on this forum?
     
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    First of all the very act of the sun stopping is itself a miracle. Second there are fighter jets today that goes 1,000 mph and be able to stop. God slowed down the earth to a stop and started it back up slowly.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Agree with the former, strongly disagree with the latter.
     
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    I believe in God.

    The Earth is an oblate spheroid. It looks like a sphere but its not a perfect sphere. This is what it is. It is not flat. Accepting that our Earth is not flat is not a sin or blasphemy. Perhaps a poor comparison, but our Earth is more like a beach ball, than a pancake.

    There is no conspiracy to cover the truth, there is no hidden agenda to deceive.

    Our planet is an oblate spheroid.

    If someone denies this, well then, there is not much point to arguing otherwise.

    Let them be.
     
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    It would take about 30 minutes of your life, and an ability to try and see something that argues against what you have been taught your whole life. However if true, it is of the upmost importance. While watching, remember that the Bible tells us, "A wise man will hear, and increase learning: and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsel" (Pro 1:5 KJV). Therefore whosoever knows the truth would be considered of high counsel. If our leaders know this, yet refuse to give it to us, they would stay established as the high counsels, and we would adhere to them. After all, the only way to graduate or be known as smart, is to learn from those of high counsel.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NRYJk30m_E

    It is whatever goes against the Bible, that needs proven.
     

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