The more Godless America becomes, the more 'uncivil' it also becomes

Helping young people understand freedoms and liberties by taking them away seems counterproductive.

Those kids are too damn free to be free.

 

Because if there's one thing America needs, it's is a bigger military.

 

I completely respect the military, but attitudes like yours are pretty disgusting. Not everyone is cut out for the service.

 

The sad irony here is that in your haste to be condescending, you have proven the OP's point perfectly. Had you really wanted to disprove him, it would have been wiser to simply not post anything.

"It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

Baiting a cynic is entirely too easy. Because you guys are ruled by your hubris. All one has to do is lay out the trap, and you'll fall into it nearly every time without fail. Good job.

 

Being a self righteous fundy is all too easy. That is why so many trailer-parkers are so good at it.

 

wtf are you talking about? How exactly did I prove his point? He's rambling on about how the country is ruined because he's offended by "naughty" words, and I simply made fun of that. Me not taking his assessment seriously is not proof that his assessment is correct.

 

You dont get it as you are an 'enabler' of the incivility in this nation.

Having spent 3 yrs in a Military barracks and invented curse words that you never heard of, was a sign of immaturity and disrespect if used around children & women.

Even while growing up I was told that unrestrained profanity was a sign of a lack of proper expression of one's self., aka, a 'negative' attribute! Bet you're having a hard time on here not getting caught in the profanity block, huh?!

Unrestrained, chronic, public profanity used around others in the public is just an 'abuse of free speech' and an indication of inner character weakness!

Found this article that sums up the OP:


When Nations Die
Kerby Anderson
http://www.leaderu.com/common/nationsdie.html

from the book by Jim Nelson Black, When Nations Die (Wheaton, IL: Tyndale, 1994),

Cultural Decay
Four important trends demonstrate cultural decay. They are the "decline of education," the "weakening of cultural foundations" [decivilization],the "loss of respect for tradition," and the "increase in materialism."

Moral Decay
Three important trends demonstrate moral decay. They are the "rise in immorality," the "decay of religious belief," and the "devaluing of human life."


Have a nice 4-letter word day.....

 

"Ask not what your country can do for YOU, but what YOU can do for your country."

The Peace Corps has many openings and a large budget.....how about putting you $$$ where your mouth is?!

Last I heard, the Peace Corps is having a hard time recruiting these days even with all the college kids graduating with their Liberal Arts degrees and no jobs..what does that tell you about the youth of this country?!!

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If you would have read the thread early on instead of just 'chiming' (as in vomiting) in with your cheap shot, you will find out that I am NOT a 'fundie!' But cheap shotting is just so much more fun than reading postings and giving 'civil' responses, huh?

 

That is correct. If this was truly a Christian nation as so many on the far right believe, we would end the military industrial complex and its war profiteering. "Make peace with all men" as Jesus said to do.

 

I'm still waiting for all you Bible experts to respond to these questions:

 

Seems like ppl want to deflect from the OP instead of responding to the 'reality' of where this nation is headed!

 

No one's deflecting anything. We're just saying that not everyone is traditional.

 

Traditional? When is serving the mankind of YOUR country 'just' traditional. Has 'giving back in thankfulness' become just old, outdated tradition and is passe for this enlightened generation?!

So then you must be heavily involved in other ways in giving back to your community, involved with local charities (not just $ but your time, which is more sacrificial & valuable), etc, if not committing to a contract of service with your Govt, huh?

 

When you say traditional, I assume you mean belief in God as well, and that's what I was referring to.

As for giving back to the community, I do serve four days a week at the local soup kitchen, two hours each day. I'll admit I could do more to help out in my home town.

 

Great..if you are being honest...but that is 'traditional!' Sorry to have to inform you of that....

Traditional as far as 'religion' is not just going to church but shud be living the Beatitudes that Jesus spoke of....

The modern disrespect for civility is not traditional!

 

What if I like most of what Jesus said, but don't actually believe in the existence of God?

 

Never have ALL Americans been 'God believing' but they still had a moralism that was based on the Judeo-Christian ethic, and got along in society! Except for the American Civil War with abolitionists on both sides, (many Christian pastors in IL wouldnt vote for Lincoln as he didnt go to church but daily read the Bible, and werent all necessarily anti-slave) I havnt seen this nation so torn, divided with the exception of Vietnam among the youth (mainly because of the Draft)...most of my life, Americans were pretty much on the 'same page' as far as values & morals, but now nothing is common, esp across the generations! Most of the youth today when questioned, dont know anything about American history, but possibly just the 'revisionist' parts..

 

Judeo-Christian means from the Middle East so Islam must fit then.
As the Christian right have been able to make politics a religious issue like it already is in the Middle East we're becoming more like that area of the world every day, which is a far more conservative and god fearing of the world than it is here.

Conservative politicians and media figures appear to be inspired by mullahs, also - similarly intolerant, excessive on punishment, fans of conspiracy theories, not able to compromise, the desire to control the populations personal choices, a hatred for feminists.. and so on.

 

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Hmm, you just share some of their attributes.

 

Can dish it out but cant take it, huh"

Hit & run posting assassins are a dime/dozen...you just got called out and are expressing your self-righteous indignation...

 

I dont see American Judeo-Christians advocating killing infidels!

And your catch-all bigoted comments sound more like blanket intolerance than 'progressive enlightened thinking!"

 

Of course they don't, they don't read the bible literally.

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives. (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)

Though there are no verses in the New Testament that advocate the killing of non-believers.

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; (Matthew 5:43-44 KJV)

 

You need to get out of the Bronze Age culture of the ppl's of the world 'at that time' and start concentrating on the Beatitudes and words of Jesus..who is called the author of a New & Better Covenant...but, then.. you wouldnt have any excuses to continue doing your usual cop out rants , huh?

Copping out is much easier than facing yourself in the spiritual mirror, huh? Gives YOU excuses for your life of self-seeking...

 

Alright, then the OT is totally irrelevant. LOL

Pick one!

 

Guess you are ignoring my many, many postings on 'inspired men but still mortal men attempting to record spiritual messages as they feel inspired' in the OT.

Try this post this thread to 'help you in your selective ignorance, or rather bias:'

>>> http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/299061-more-godless-america-becomes-more-uncivil-also-becomes-2.html#post1062534549

I talk all the time about using 'Spiritual Wisdom' when interpreting scripture...maybe you have missed it in your anti-Christian bias?

But I'm not going to tit-for-tat with you wolfie, as that's the trap you like 'to try' to pull on Christians...suggest you start another one of your bash Christianity threads if you want to deflect, like most of the others on this thread from the OP...how about addressing my post on "When Nations Die?' For starters, how's 'our' educational system doing? It's no longer Judeo-Christian based as it was 40 yrs ago...