The republicans war on women continues

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  1. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

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    Sarah Palin doesn't have sense enough to pour (*)(*)(*)(*) out of a boot. But whether she aborted or not was her decision. I have no problems with what decision she made with her child. You are wrong if you think I fault her for that. That is a personal decision of hers and it is none of my business. And as for some wanting to call cons out for saying women aren't smart, we don't have to. Huckabee did that for you us. His inappropriate comments about Uncle Sugar and women's libidos shows he has no class or tact. Then uses that as a prop to make a ridiculous argument about how women are smart enough not to take the tyrannical recommendations from the government to use birth control. Trying to put words in their heads. It's the oldest trick in the book. Tell Huckabee to take a hike with his propaganda. It's insulting to women.
     
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    I dont really disagree with you. But, I would rather save the country money instead of making some social idealogical point.

    Its really a numbers game for me. The fact is, its easier and cheaper to provide birth control, than it is to provide care for a impoverished family with children. Cause if that lady goes out and puts her slut face on, and then gets preg, and has a child, we the taxpayers are going to end up supporting her and her child anyways. And the cost of that is obviously FAR greater than providing her birth control.

    Until someone is ready to take the stand and say "not only will we not support you, we will also not support in any way any children you might have" thats simply how it is. And I doubt most people are willing to let kids starve and go neglected yet just to make a point to their irresponsible adult parents.

    Even if you take the child away from the mother, and place it in foster care, so that the child can be cared for, and not the mother, it will still cost us far more than it would have been to provide this lady putting on her "slut face" as you call it, some birth control.
     
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    Very very few people gave Palin crap for having a baby with down syndrome. And the ones that did were called idiots from both sides. Almost every liberal would say Palin made the choice that she thought best for her own reproductive future. Hats off to her for that choice.

    Thats all most of us want. We want the woman to be able to choose her own reproductive future.
     
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    He's trying to plant the idea that it is bad for women to have birth control. Government, private, or free! He's planting the seeds for the idea of birth control being bad, by blaming the idea on the government. His religion simply does not believe in birth control under any circumstances. The government provided birth control is just the crutch Huckabee uses to discourage women from using birth control all together. He lives in this bigoted world where he thinks he owns dominion of intelligence over women. Tragically for him, he is wrong.
     
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    Gotcha. So allowing access for women to safe and effective birth control, and or abortions if needed, = taking away womens rights. That simply doesnt make sense.
     
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    So? You don't want to take the risk, don't have sex.

    A man doesn't OWN a woman, just because he takes a 'dip' in her.
     
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    Kills millions every year? Your link to that figure please? And I've got some news for you. When people drink alcohol regularly or smoke cigarettes regularly there is a risk of them dying. People take risks every day with their bodies hundreds of different ways. So if you are so concerned about women dying from the pill where is your concern for the others? And women dying from the pill, actually is not that common. So get your figures straight.
     
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    That was a decision that the Left on these boards and Liberal radio kept condemning her for, over and over and you know it. Maybe you didn't, but a hell of a lot of you did.

    Palin might not be the smartest girl on the block, but as Governor, she had the highest approval rating of any state governor, before she ran for VP.

    Plane fact is, Liberals only care to give women the right to abort a fetus, or baby right up to the 9 month and outside of the health of the mother, or something seriously wrong with the baby, there is NO LOGICAL REASON FOR IT. We all know that but you want to use it as a woman's right to her own body as a ploy to win women's vote. Well if you think she has total right to her body, let her slash her wrist and live and have authorities hear about it and see what they do with her.
     
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    White women still vote republican. As do married women and the educated. Welfare moms and minorities getting bad government service from democrats are the ones lining up behind the democrats. Why? No one knows.
     
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    Follow the MONEY.

    Our politics is influenced HEAVILY by MONEY. What the wealthiest people hold as mindsets... affects what those representing them says.

    Here is an example. Mr. Friess is a very wealthy man... you can be virtually certain that someone he knows is PAID to represent the thinking in his mind.
    [video=youtube;ZM6ifRq_SNg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM6ifRq_SNg[/video]
     
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    That would be harming her own body. That is against the law. She is only allows to harm the bodies of others.
     
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    I know. It's because they have convinced Blacks that Republicans don't care or like Blacks. That if they are going to make it, they can't do it without the Democratic Party. It's a ploy they use the same as pretending they care about woman's rights. They know darn well there is only two reasons to have an abortions as late as 7-8-9 months. But by pressing abortion up to almost time of delivery, they have woman fooled, thinking that they care about her right to do it. They will tell any group anything they want to hear.
     
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    According to Liberals. When they allow that fetus to grow as late as 20-25 weeks, that fetus should have rights too. There is only two reasons to abort it after that time. But try and explain that to a Liberal, even though they know it's true and they won't back off. They want to play that lie that they care about a woman's rights. Gets them a lot of votes. Votes is really the only thing they really care about. Forget common decency.
     
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    There is so much being said in that video with just a few sentences, and the right will never understand what was actually said that shouldn't be said in every day conversation. Many males do not always understand the demeaning effect of those statements by Friess towards women. Apparently the republican party men are never going to figure that out. For them it is no big deal. What a mistake that is. It's all about their ideology towards women and the attitude associated with the ideology is all too obvious for most people to see. But not them!
     
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    You can bet it is. But why does the Left believe all the money is on the Right? You have millionaires and billionaires that are Liberal. You have 90% of Holiwood actors are millionaires and most are Liberal.Most of your athletes are Black and Liberal. You have the unions paying in millions to the Democrats. Most Jews are Democrats and many of them are millionaires. So where do you guys think all the money is on the Right?
     
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    it's covered today, what republicans want to do is force ins companies not to cover it

    I say if they want to pay for a plan with less people using it, so be it, though it might cost them more cause insurances companies will have to make special plans just for them

    isn't it easier just to choose for yourself no to use the coverage if you do not believe in it, should JW's get a different plan that doesn't have blood transfusions covered? or should they just choose not to get a blood transfusion...

    conservatives really wants a nanny gov it seems that makes choices for you...


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    All human beings have flaws, but likely the greatest flaw of some of the most 'influential' (wealthy) people... is that they are lacking the social mechanisms, which properly or decently empathize with other people.

    It's ALL about them and what they want. Friess exemplifies that, in his commentary... and reflects what many men on the "Right" wish to propagate as a mindset or meme.

    And yes, it's DISGUSTING.
     
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    When did anyone on the "Left" make such a claim"?

    More importantly... how has the "Left" been campaigning and/or lobbying to diminish the rights of women?

    I'm curious about what you say.
     
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    ANYONE who pays, at least partially, for their insurance coverage should have the right to access coverage for birth control. Whether they want to USE that coverage or not is up to them. THAT is freedom.

    Imposing, for religious reason especially, that insurance coverage should NOT include birth control medication or devices is AGAINST freedom. . . And it is also totally illogical if the same people want to decrease the number of abortions, and the number of children born outside marriage or to people who will not care for the child throughout his childhood.

    Another oxymoron is that I don't see any of those bigots refusing to pay for MALE ENHANCEMENT medication. . . !
     
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    The Left is ALWAYS saying the Right has all the money. They wouldn't complain so much about the rich if they thought most of all that money was going towards their causes. But they don't think that do they?

    The Left hasn't been campaigning and/or lobbying to diminish the rights of women. The Left is trying to make women believe they care more about her rights, like having late term abortions, even though they know outside of the two reasons I gave, there is NO REASON FOR IT.

    Both are nothing but snow jobs the Left plays
     
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    You are 100%, spot-on correct!!

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    Oh yeah, "ALWAYS". (That is in no way, true.)

    Sometimes you say valid things, but not "ALWAYS".
     
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    lol! You are going to pay for it, either on the front end or the back end, and it is better going in than coming out. The government might come along and bonk your head with a hammer. lmao
     
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    That's not freedom. That's trying to bleed as much out of the insurance companies and tax payer as you can get without having to buy it yourself. Same as condoms for men or male or femaile enhancements It the Liberal view of getting as many handouts as you can get without having to get it yourself. .
     
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    Huckabee as Governor of Arkansas signed a bill saying insurance companies covering even religious-based organizations had to cover contraception.

    Now of course....he calls that "crushing religious liberty"....given he's a lying sack of crap.
     

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