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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by eathen lord, Dec 20, 2018.

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  1. Adfundum

    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    What was OBL's complaint?
     
    Adfundum, Dec 23, 2018
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    And how is that accomplished? Walking away leaves some very bad people a free hand.
     
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    That we prevented his nutball Islamists a free hand to topple ME governments.
     
    LangleyMan, Dec 23, 2018
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    Do you think it goes beyond a simplistic Islamist agenda?
     
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    They don't keep the peace. They end up massacre innocent people over and over.
    colonialism is highly illegal
    when you leave Afghanistan, the Taliban will take back over. The people seem to want it, while it's non of the US's business to oust them. This all came from lets get rid of Al Qaida because of 911. And the Taliban = your average Afghan person, got massacred for what? They were willing to hand over Bin Laden even. This all shows the incredible stupidity of the Americans with their massive weapons.
     
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  6. LangleyMan

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    Our government-snooping society has many, many ways to root out the "bad guys" (and "good guys," too, but that's another matter).
     
    LangleyMan, Dec 23, 2018
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    Islamist nutballs want power for a lot of reasons, but they're still religious jerkwagons.
     
    LangleyMan, Dec 23, 2018
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    Majority of people do no believe to the official 9/11 story
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories
     
    kreo, Dec 23, 2018
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  9. Adfundum

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    Do you think that our presence in and and dominance of the region played a role?
     
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    LangleyMan, Dec 23, 2018
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    No doubt. We have worldwide interests.
     
    LangleyMan, Dec 23, 2018
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  12. Adfundum

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    How much of a role do you think it played/plays?
     
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    A large part.
     
    LangleyMan, Dec 23, 2018
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    There are only bad people there. I don't want my country going around the world seeking out bad people. As you already noted it always ends badly.
     
    Pycckia, Dec 23, 2018
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    Self-serving nonsense.
    You want to hope walking away from people in Africa, Asia, South America, etc. who are being influenced by China will work out for us?
    A sweeping and inaccurate generalization.
     
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    Who are the good people there in Syria? Can you name them?

    Definitely walk away from Africa. There is only failure there as 100 years of colonization has proven. Hold a tight reign on South America as our natural sphere of influence. Leave Asia as China's natural sphere of influence.

    We cannot defeat China. The West is too decadent and demoralized to confront China. Just consider how the liberals complain about a modest trade war. "We are bound to lose!" they cry. China is almost certainly going to take over the world. The best we can do is a holding action in the New World hoping that internal contradictions in China do them in. But I would encourage children to learn Mandarin.

    A sweeping and accurate generalization. What is the last successful US foreign adventure? Korea?
     
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    Well that nails it right down. What are those interests you refer to and what makes them important enough to fight over?
     
    Adfundum, Dec 23, 2018
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    The point is that before we start talking about terrorism and wars arounds the world, we should investigate who and how blow up World Trade Center.
     
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    Isolationist. A huge mistake. An extreme reaction to a history of bad decisions by grandstanding pols who used foreign policy to sway poorly educated citizens. :hiding: :fingerscrossed: :disbelief:
     
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    Sure. There are millions of suffering Syrian people.
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    Gulf War.
     
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    They're the health of our economy and perhaps even our freedom.
     
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    We know who blew it up.
     
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    I'm still not convinced it's going to be option 3... I think we're going to see option 2 develop.

    It's really quite ingenious, you tell everyone you're withdrawing, the democrats and leftwing goes bananas, then when a privatised war developed they'll look rather stupid for suddenly doing another 180 by condemning it... and they can't blame you because the money is funnelled from elsewhere/mining co's and other countries
     
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    A privatised war is illegal, since colonialism is illegal. It's about theft on a large scale of resources that belong to an other party.
     
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