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  1. MrFirst

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    How many Afghanistan citizens took part in this attack?
     
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    https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/terrorism

     
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    Get a clue. The Taliban gave al Qaeda safe haven.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt you Democrats truly believe this given what you said has many errors.
    1. We did not walk away from Afghanistan.
    2. The Taliban conquered the government remaining of Afghanistan.
    3. Through enormous efforts of the Al Qaeda, the Soviets were removed from Afghanistan.
    4. All Al Qaeda means is the base. Bin laden constructed training facilities.

    True the Taliban remain. True they and Al Qaeda fight each other. Afghanistan has a huge number of people who shun the Taliban and now would fight to the death to prevent them returning.

    Bin Laden the former focus is dead per Obama. We never saw a body but he told us he was put into the ocean. Seems to be a wild story to me.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/11/2012112243823204328.html

    Although the Obama administration has pledged to be the most transparent in American history, it is keeping a tight hold on materials related to the Bin Laden raid.

    In a response to separate requests from the AP for information about the mission, the Defence Department said in March that it could not locate any photographs or video taken during the raid or showing bin Laden's body.

    It also said it could not find any images of Bin Laden's body on the Vinson.

    The Pentagon also said it could not find any death certificate, autopsy report or results of DNA identification tests for Bin Laden, or any pre-raid materials discussing how the government planned to dispose of Bin Laden's body if he were killed.

    The Defence Department also refused to confirm or deny the existence of helicopter maintenance logs and reports about the performance of military gear used in the raid.

    One of the stealth helicopters that carried the SEALs to Abbottabad crashed during the mission and its wreckage was left behind.

    People who lived near bin Laden's compound took photos of the disabled chopper.

    The AP is appealing the Defence Department's decision.

    The CIA, which ran the bin Laden raid and has special legal authority to keep information from ever being made public, has not responded to AP's request for records about the mission.
     
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    Laws of physics has more credibility then official fairy tales.
     
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    The 9/11 Conspiracy bovine excrement has NEGATIVE credibility in comparison to Strengths of Materials and Applied Math.
     
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    Except the fact that no single scientific equation or description of an experiment has ever been presented as a proof to the official story.
    But that garbage (official story) has been used to justify the spending of trillions of dollars, violation and of human rights and general public.humiliation.
     
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    WRONG!

    That the 9/11 Conspiracy theorists are incapable of comprehending the Strengths of Materials and Applied Math is NOT anyone's problem but their own.

    Spouting bovine excrement about "pending of trillions of dollars, violation and of human rights and general public.humiliation" just exposes the vacuousness of your position.
     
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    If your explanations cannot be reproduced in the scientific experiment that is your fault not mine.
    So far your theory is nothing but trash.
     
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    Given that I have an engineering background and can do the math for myself I know that ALL of the trash comes exclusively from the 9/11 Conspiracy nutters who really are CLUELESS when it comes to factual reality.

    Let me demonstrate.

    Take a wooden match stick and hold it between your thumb and second finger. Now press against the middle of the matchstick with your index finger until the match stick breaks.

    Congratulations!

    You just demonstrated the basic principles of Strengths of Materials and Applied Math to yourself and you still don't know a thing about them.
     
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    Does it give you pause to consider that the same people who advised the Dumb Kid also now insist we interfere in Syria?
     
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    Ah, the usual BS. If a guy who favors school and medical vouchers, a strong defense, a nationsl ID to stop illegal immigration, etc, is a Democrat/liberal, then you're a fascist.
    We did, in the 1990s, after arranging for the Russian backed regime to hit a banana peel.
    At a manageable financial cost and very few lives, we're keeping the Taliban from returning to power. We should continue to do so.
    Promises, promises. Trump promised to work for average folks. He hasn't.
    Do get back to us when you've located bin Laden.
     
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    No more than knowing Trump plays golf. (I don't drive my cart across the green or cheat.)

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    Does this mean you in fact endorse the failed policies of neoconservatism?
     
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    So what - have you never heard of the "Rule of Law" ... one person is not responsible for the actions of another ?

    Just because you let someone use your land - and that person happens to be a nut-job who then goes out and kills someone - does not make you guilty of murder.

    This is a dumb/dumber argument on steroids. The Taliban leadership denounced Al Qaeda immediately after 911 and they had nothing to do with 911.

    We did not go into Afghanistan because of the Taliban - and we have not been there for 18 years because of Al Qaeda.
     
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    I opposed the Iraq War in 2003. What do you think?
     
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    I think the Syrian was is another neocon adventure just like the Iraq war.
     
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    But that is BS.
    The weight and pressure of the finger applied to the stick far exceed the pressure that stick can withstand. That is totally opposite what happened on 9/11 2001 where stick overcome the pressure of the fingers.
    OK, I have got it, you can throw your degree to the garbage can.
     
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    Get this--you might have a nasty surprise if you had tenants in your rented house who you knew were breaking into mine, trashing my yard, etc. and you did nothing when I asked you to deal with them. I don't give a sh't if you're legally responsible or not.
    They weren't prepared to get rid of their tenant...
    We're there because we don't trust the landlord.
     
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    The approach to defending the U.S. against terrorism has caused a great deal less liberty. If you live within 100 miles of the border, your property and possessions may be searched at will and possibly seized. It takes a great deal of time to get on a flight, and some things which seem innocuous are deemed illegal carry on. That is the issue with defending the homeland, rather than taking the fight abroad, in my opinion. It will not change what has happened, but maybe we have less terroristic activity due to a strong stance abroad.

    How about dropping bibles in Afghanistan? It makes me laugh to think about it. Regularly burning their poppy fields might help. I guess we thought of that, but would rather extract a "tax" from the sale of it? Kidding, a little. Thanks for a good read. I enjoyed it.
     
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    The senior Bush knew better than to invade Iraq. Hid dumbo son didn't heed his advice!
     
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    It's at least a derivative of the 2003 neocon mess Bush created.
     
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    Well, let's get out then.
     
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