U;tra- Rich are screwing the middle class and the poor

I think he probably understands your position perfectly.

 

MOST.. TODAY, yes. Corporations are all about the quick profit, and the low wages, more today, that at any other time in history. Just look at the prosperity of the richest of the rich. It keeps going up, while society takes a nosedive.

 

I use absolutes and over emphasis to highlight the point I'm trying to make. People only pay attention to the incredible headlines and sound blurbs that last a second or two. You have to catch their attention and TRY to get them to pull their heads out of their azzes, and THINK about why they accept what they do and who is to blame for it. The best way to illustrate absurdity, is to be absurd so, I am, very often. Rome burns and people are worried about their beer, lady gaga, and American Idol, while the ultra rich corporations loot society.

 

You sell extreme wealth through any means needed as some sort of great thing. That's what you do.

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The SCOTUS also says unlimited cash from anonymous sources is free speech too. How credible are they, really?

 

So long as the Hollywood elitist doesn't screw society over in the process, yeah, who gives a rats azz?

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Correct.

They all bought and paid for it with our money, so complaining is all that is left.

 

I would say Michael Moore is the ultimate hypocrite. He tells us how greedy capitalism is, yet he's not complaining about capitalism as long as he benefits from it. Pretty much like liberals do when they complain about capitalism while benefiting from that very system. Who do you think designed your computer and made it possible for the middle class to afford one? The government? lol. Yeah capitalism is "evil" but let me go down to the store and give those evil corporations $800 for an iphone.

I agree with this. If it's attained legally. The Kennedy's attained much of their wealth through bootlegging. Owning a business and paying your employees what they're worth isn't a crime. No one is forcing them to work for those wages, want to make more money then get a pt time job or get the skills required for a higher income job. It's not the corporations fault that people screwed up in school and had a baby at 13. Other than that we will have to agree to disagree on this subject.

 

...and who's "screwing society"? Oh that's right, Walmart. Yeah by providing millions of jobs and consumer goods at a lower price all under one roof. How dare them. Why don't these Hollywood elitist take a pay cut and pass the savings on to the customer at the ticket booth. Why don't these liberal mega movie corporations pay a better rate to local theaters for showing their films? Why aren't they helping the "little guy" instead they call on the guy making 250,000 to do it.

 

Wrong on so many points. You have limited experience and blindered vision

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No woder you post so much BS

 

As credible as most. They do occasionally get it wrong, like Roe v Wade.

 

Nothing like blindered vision. I do not sell or advocate for wealth, extreme or otherwise. I post what my experience tells me is fact, whether you like it or not.

 

Well, there you go. "Legally". What you CAN do, as compared to what you SHOULD do. Morality goes right out the window, doesn't it? The Bushes got most of their wealthy through dealing with the Nazis during the war, and I don't see you railing against them. The METHOD of attaining wealth is completely perverted, and all's fair, so long as piles of cash lie at the horizon.

What is your opinion of child labor?

 

They're screwing society by their "business" practices of running over a town, city, or municipality, blackmailing the state to cough up money for their exalted 'arrival' into said community, and then enslaving the locals to work for much less than they did prior to the corporate monopoly's arrival (AFTER they put everybody else out of business). They're just one example of crapitalism gone wrong though. There are many.

Entertainers, or whomever, do something entirely different to get their wealth, and there is no comparison, really.

 

The wealth of the richest of the rich AREN'T higher than they are right now, than at any other time in our history??? Do tell.

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Got you to respond though, didn't it?

 

But Roe v Wade, is one that you guys try to circumvent by passing retarded laws like 'forced vaginal ultrasounds', in an attempt to shame the female client, while simultaneously embracing 'unlimited cash from anonymous sources' being a wonderful thing. Doesn't seem consistent, to me. Sounds rather 'selective', in fact. So, embrace the SCOTUS while simultaneously poo pooing them. Nice trick.

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My experience says something completely different, and they AREN'T facts. They're fortunate circumstance you were likely born into.

 

Are you implying that everyone shares the same "morality"? Since we're on the subject of morality. I think it's immoral to take money from people who work and give it to those who don't. BTW that doesn't mean not helping those in need. I would rather give to charity, at least they won't my waste my hard earned money like the government does. See Obama's website for an example of typical government waste. No respect for other peoples money.

Why should i? There are plenty of liberals doing that. How many of you comment about the Kennedy's bootlegging adventures? A million threads on here about Walmart greed but only a few about liberal greed. You seem to think only conservatives run businesses.

You mean like a paper boy? That's "child labor". You have a problem with this? I had a paper route, great experience, Also cut grass, washed cars at the local car dealership, waited tables and other odd jobs, taught me responsibility and how to handle money. If these kids today had a job maybe they wouldn't have time to play games like knocking people out, or getting pregnant and doing other things that lead down the road to nowhere.

 

Yeah, morality. I see you don't value it. Whatever makes money, is your morality. Got it.

You were the one who highlighted JFK, and I simply threw Bush back at you, as an example of the morality of the right, that you apparently embrace.


No, I mean like, slave labor, say, in China. You know, China. That country that 98% of Walmart's goods come from and are sold at such high profit?

 

Most of the Bush wealth came from oil.

At what age? How employed? I think a 12 year old can do a paper route or mow lawns t make extra money. I believe a 16 year old can do work after school or on weekends. In some countries child labor keeps the family fed, and until we move enough labor intensive jobs to those countries such that their labor evolution can build more wealth, I accept that too. I worked with I was 12. I had a paper route and I mowed lawns for spending money when I was 12. Maybe that is why I believe all money received should be accompanies by reasonable labor, to include welfare money if the person is able.

 

Not relevant as none of that wealth prevents you from increasing your own wealth, at least not nearly as much as your attitude.

I respond to most of your BS fraud, but you don't need BS to get people to respond to you. A little fact and reason will work quite well.

 

Much of the Bush family wealth came from doing 'business' with the Nazis when we were at war with them, as well.

Not the 12 year old doing his paper route. I mean the 8 years old in China that we exploit, with Walmart products.

 

You guys? Who are you guys? I am a democrat and h ave never favored those bills.

I believe that donation of money to campaigns is "free speech." Would you limit free speech?

I accept the authority of the USSC, even if I don't like all their rulings. Are you saying you like all their rulings?

I was born into a loving family, not a wealthy one. I have never been wealthy and I have never envied a wealthy person for his wealth. I consider envy to be one of the worst sins man can commit.

 

'Not relevant'. All right then..that's that. My attitude is a result of reality, my friend. It sucks, granted, but it is what it is, and I like it. Keeps me from being blind sided by BSing salesmen who sell crap for a living.

 

He didn't say that.

Bush made his money from Oil. The Kennedys made their money bootlegging and supported Nazi Germany early in the war, until it got to be unpopular. So what? That was then, this is now.

When you dwell on Walmart at the omission to the mom and pop stores and other discount stores which pay less and sell as much imported goods it reflects on your intelligence.

 

Got proof to back up this ridiculous claim?

Really, you think the local mom and pop stores pay more? They pay less and have less employees and because they are small stores means more unemployment and higher prices for the poor that you claim you're trying to help. How do higher prices help the poor and middle class?

It's the consumer who put those stores out of business. Mom and pop stores charge more for the same merchandise. I know this, because i owned a business and couldn't compete either. Not just Walmart either, you've got Kmart and Target as well. So i changed business plans and came up with a different idea and now I'm back in business. Try offering a service that Walmart doesn't offer. There are plenty of businesses still around. You just have to modify or change your outlook.

 

How can people being wealthy be relevant to your opinion when none of it keeps you from being more wealthy yourself?

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One needs to change their attitude and stop whining about being victimized or one will never succeed.

 

Speed reading your rhetoric, led me to believe you were Republican. My apologies.

Unlimited cash from anonymous sources, monopolizing and shutting out those decent individuals that might not have a pile of cash, ISN'T free speech, despite what the Bush Court says, and yes, it should be severely limited or completely eliminated, and no, obviously I don't like all of their rulings. The right wing is usually the first to tout 'the courts have already decided' rhetoric when they want to further their agenda. Envy is one of the worst sins you can commit, huh? Judging others is cool though, right?

Just 'love' in your family, right? Do you have a portfolio?