US meat teeming with superbugs

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  1. Jack Napier

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    This must a be a slow news day, when we are reduced to how we like our eggs.

    :)

    I've gone off fried eggs. Indeed, I don't really eat a fry up often now. Used to love one, but sometimes it sits there and just looks a bit gross. I have to avoid those eggs that are so cheap, you just know that the conditions are going to be worse of the worse. It probably = nothing, but I at least try to buy those that are not like that, I am sure there was meant to be some sort of new legislation or other, that was going to address this better.
     
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    I buy free range organic and my daughter tells me soft are alright now - she was reading up having little ones - who of course like to dip 'soldiers' in their eggs..
     
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    Any day of the week is a good day for 'soldiers'.

    Even in the middle of a hurricane, were I eating an egg, I would refuse to move until my soldiers were ready.

    Egg without soldiers is like Peters and no Lee, or Cannon yet no Ball, and a Morecome with no Wise.
     
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    They do taste and look better took. The yolk in the cheap one's are not saying 'eat me', and even the box has a feel of Gitmo about it, with a sort of semi transparent plastic.

    They are so cheap that the supermarket gives you money, but I can't bring myself to buy them. Fair enough, someone will rock by and tell me that even free range eggs are not all they seem, but it is better. Better is something.
     
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    Eat vegetables. Not only will you no longer be participating in the animal holocaust, but you will be reducing the probability of dieing to a food born illness.
     
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    I know. But boring. Even those that say it's not, are not really telling the whole truth. Perhaps I could hunt for things? There are seagulls and pigeons, can you eat them, if they are in the city? I could get a small rocket launcher?
     
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    Just bought a new calf and I have a freezer full of grass fed beef with more when it runs out. Got a four hundred pound boar hog (gonna measure him this Saturday to get an exact weight) and two sows. Got eight little piglets, 30 egg laying chickens, and nine chickens ready for meat in about two weeks.

    I have corn planted, brocolli planted, potatoes planted, lettuce planted, and green peas ready to make. I also have a good man to do my butcher work. He makes the best sausage I have ever tasted.

    I buy bread and odds and ends at the supermarket. We not only eat well but we eat cheap. I save about a hundred a week on groceries.

    Don't eat raw meat, clean your cutting board with bleach, and cook your food.
     
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    Why is it white meat MUST be cooked well, why is there so much bacteria living on that, compared to red meat?
     
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    I really don't know. But I do know that a chicken is a nasty animal and if you stack them over three high the droppings from the top will never reach the floor. A cow is much cleaner and even a pig will pick a place for its droppings if you give it enough space. A cow will not eat where there are cattle droppings. The best thing to do is rotate between pigs, cows, and chickens because few diseases and paresites will pass between species.

    I have always been against the use of antibiotics in animal feed. It is a plauge waiting to happen. I only give antibiotics when my animals are sick...and the last time my sow got sick I waited for two days and she got well on her own.

    I deworm every three months however...and even they are becoming resistant to some wormers. So it seems best to switch medication now and then.
     
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    This is a country where aspartame is freely poured into our foods and corporations like McDonalds get to call their congealed concotions 100% beef. In this country you have the right to eat healthy...if you can afford it and your not gullible enough to be fooled by advertising blitz. If you want to see how many people in the U.S eat healthy , look around you and count how many are fat bastards.

    We used have an effective food safety industry... But after the likes of Monsanto.. Herman Caine ..Donald Rumsfeld, our protecters and servants have become our pimps and auctioneers selling our interests off to the highest bidder.
     
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    While your bent over its never good practice to claim victory while ignoring the guy shoving things down your throat because you successfully defended your rear.
     
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    Well said SC - :thumbsup:
     
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    I guess that applies if one actually is sucker enough to believe that so called 'organic' food is better and that propaganda, from the 'organic' 'environmental' industry, about a government survey somehow constitutes 'truth.'
     
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    What part of a McDonald's hamburger is not 100% beef?

    Tin-hat alert.
     
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    Just give me a bug infested porterhouse steak with baked potato and a salad with high fructose corn syrup dressing.

    Mmmm...Good. It sure beats overpriced cabbage people can't afford in Egypt.

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    Just give me a bug infested porterhouse steak with baked potato and a salad with high fructose corn syrup dressing.

    Mmmm...Good. It sure beats overpriced cabbage people can't afford in Egypt.
     
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    MacDonald's stopped using pink slime after the PR debacle.. but take a look at the CAFO raised cattle that McDonald's and almost all fast-food restaurants use.. and prepare to be disgusted.

    As far as tin-hat alert goes... I will keep mine on and remain at 6" 210lbs around 15% bodyfat at over 45 years of age. Better a tin hat American... than a fat-ass American
     
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    Haha!... yep that nasty organic food is horrible for you ...:roflol:
     
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    Yes, it is...

    http://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2012/O157H7-11-12/

    Multistate Outbreak of Shiga Toxin-producing Escherichia coli O157:H7 Infections Linked to Organic Spinach and Spring Mix Blend


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Germany_E._coli_O104:H4_outbreak

    A novel strain of Escherichia coli O104:H4 bacteria caused a serious outbreak of foodborne illness focused in northern Germany in May through June 2011.


    http://www.realclearscience.com/art...anic_industry_for_e_coli_outbreak_106245.html

    The global, multi-billion-dollar certified organic-industrial complex has been riding on a non-scientific wave of pure hype for over a decade now. As someone who grew up on an organic farm and inspected over 500 organic farms and processing facilities, let me make this crystal clear: There is NO ROUTINE FIELD TESTING in the organic industry! None.
     
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    I don't think one can attribute one's body-type and self maintenance to 'organic' food. Hope you are enjoying your tin hat...LOL
     
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    I tend to rinse all the veggies I consume and I consume 75% of all my veggie/fruit intake raw and puree'ed. I dont buy organic labels.. Never had food poisoning from veggies. A little common sense goes a long way here.

    This is the same mentality that would be used by a simpleton that claims renewable energy is harmful because a few corrupt asshats steal funds meant to promote its development. If a person constructs his/her diet around a silly-ass "organic label" and thinks that is the ticket to health, and then complains that they are still a fatass... that is ignorance case in point. ...Dont buy healthy marketing... buy healthy food.
     
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    Thats sounds like the mentality of a fatty. Consuming "organic Label" is not a healthy lifestyle. trying to blame bodytype for obesity is equally disingenuous. Next time your in a supermarket look at the healthy people's cart contents... compare it to the multitudes of fatties contents. Compare the health of gym clientele to the that of your local Golden Corral buffet restaurant. It is mentality type... not body type. I would quickly devolve into your average pot bellied beer swilling couch potato... if I quit exercising and started eating processed crap in spite of body type.

    I LOVE my tin hat:clapping:
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    I live in a busy city centre, so I could not do this v easily, nor am I esp green fingered.

    However, if you have a large garden, piece of land, and are good with this sort of thing, how easy do you think you could make an Aquaponics set up, and if you did, do you feel it would serve a real benefit to you?
     
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    If you had a piece of land and a large garden I would forget about aquaponics unless it contained fish and maybe a few aquatic plants. You could use the nutrient rich pond water to water your garden and eat the fish.

    An aquaponic setup to raise plants would be a waste of money if you had a large garden. They can also be a lot of hassle to keep up. I think plants raised in good old fashioned dirt taste better and you would save on chemicals.

    I would use any extra space to raise an animal to eat. Pigs eat bean hulls, cull potatoes, pea vines, cull squash, pumpkin, and just about anything else you would normally throw away. They also plow the ground and leave real good dirt behind. So you can compost with a pig, till the ground, get rid of throw away stuff, and eat the pig.

    If you had an acre or so of extra ground you could prepare the ground with pigs, sow grass seed after them and then raise beef on it.

    Or...if you had overgrown ground....goats, chickens, pigs, and then beef.
     

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