But...if you don't like getting dirty, doing chores in all kinds of weather, or actually like gardening and taking care of animals, don't even try any kind of farming. You will suffer and your animals will suffer even more.
Yeah - that was what I was driving at. There are quite a lot of examples of how to do it, on the net, and on U Tube.
Not at all... your premise is that "organic food" is a hoax and a sham... it is not... just because some enterprising thief has decided to exploit the system that the government has put in place ( the same system that allowed McDonald's to claim pink paste filled meat byproducts as 100% beef) does not mean that healthy organically produced food is a hoax. T I see that you conveniently and disingenuously skipped over my other post so that you could post your "victory"
Food is organic despite the way it is grown. How could it NOT be a sham to claim certain foods are 'organic' and others not 'organic?' Just how clueless does one have to be to believe that say...an orange is not organic? I mean, All 'organic' means (as labeled in a store) is that the stuff was grown in cow poop that was hopefully composted correctly and hopefully doesn't harbor any insects as insecticide is 'verboten' to so-called 'organic' growers. BTW did you know that one can get an 'organic' certification while using: "approved synthetic substances on the National List" http://agr.wa.gov/foodanimal/organic/Certificate/2006/OrganicRequirementsSimplified.pdf Lots of people believe the media hype who stole a USDA official's name for finely textured beef and falesly labeled perfectly good beef "pink slime" just because of the way it looks and is processed. "'Pink slime' doesn't exist," Jeff Carlson of BPI said. "'Pink slime' never existed in any way, shape or form. Our product is 100 percent beef in every regard, from quality to nutrition." http://abcnews.go.com/Business/beef...utritious-beef/story?id=16014232#.UXN4sEpv-M0 I could have, don't remember. Must not have been that important.
A plant does not know whether a fertilizer is from a bag bought at the store or from the back end of an animal. The results for the plant are the same. A person just starting a garden on new ground would be well served to use a chemical fertilizer in order to get the nutrients to the plants because it takes years to develop a soil that can be farmed organic. If your area is blessed with a sandy or clay loam from nature organic farming could be a quicker process but in hard rock and clay (like what I have) good soil takes years and organic matter just evaporates in the soil. And you also have a problem with pest control. I can not imagine a hundred acres of tomato plants being hand picked for tomato horn worm. In my area we also have those stinkin fire ants. Without a pesticide they take over everything. So I use permethrin. Another problem with organic produce is the look of the product. Organic buyers (and most buyers of fresh produce) want a blemish free product with a look look about it. Anything that is not perfect is thrown away and this raises the cost. What ya gonna do when aphids attack your peppers ...buy ladybugs and pray they get there in time???....
Well all you had to do was read the post you quoted princess... you are a fickle little thing , aren't you. Hmmm... I guess you know better than major grocers then. It is a huge stretch to call grain fed diseased steroid/antibiotic pumped cows "organically raised" . Crops bio-engineered to contain and be tolerant to deadly poisons are not healthy. It is why most of the developed world bans bio-engineered food production. Everything within reason , it is a well known fact that proper crop rotation can be used to replenish soil and minimize the need for insecticides and fertilizers... only a simpleton would dismiss this practice by saying... "hey its an orange... so it must be organic". Fertilizers and insecticides can be used intelligently.. but we don't do that here.
We need to get back to the days of independent butchers, bakers, and grocers, that actually chatted to the people, were part of the community, and took professional pride in their produce.
I just did this. No more supermarket meat for me. If I eat meat, it's from a trustworthy local biological butcher who know's his sources. The sede effect is that I eat less meat by far, eating more veggies and pulses, looking for more ways to cook. I'm losing the small bit of body fat that I knew I could stand to lose and look healthier. It's a win win win all round, except for the super markets.
For this to happen, it would we'd need to accept that there'd be no more out of season tomatoes, no exotic fruits, only seasonal stuff. Something I support anyway.
It wouldn't be the end of the World. Moreover, is it not possible, with the right equipment etc, to grown these things here?
Not for large Metropolis' such as London. However, it is clear to me that the food chain needs to be far simplified, however I believe it's gone too far (in a very short period of time). Change will come from individuals, or food supply chain issues or an oil crisis etc...
Insulting other posters typically shows one's own lack of factual supportive data. Nice fairytale but....you have absolutely no proof. Please provide actual proof that anyone has gotten ill from bio-engineered crops or beef because of what you claim. Like I already posted, all oranges are organic. So far, I have not seen a synthetic one. They have to be grown. I am happy to educate some of you people. Has there been a mass poisoning of people eating food where insecticides were used like there was with folks getting sick and dying from eating so-called 'organic' food?
Have you ever seen those graphics where there are four objects placed evenly around a surface.. and if you stare real hard at one of the objects the rest seem to disappear... you seem to be able to stare hard enough not to see anything else than what you want to see. There is a literal (*)(*)(*)(*)-ton of evidence pointing to the harmful effects of sterioded grainfed diseased bovines and bioengineered crops.. if you dont already know.. all the evidence in world is not going to convince you. The only thing you will do is attempt to discredit the source by calling it liberal lies. With that kind of logic this little nuggest of wisdom should dazzle you
Here is one for you to dismiss as liberal lies, it comes from the evil leftists at the Cancer Prevention Coalition http://www.preventcancer.com/consumers/general/hormones_meat.htm Here is another from one of your favorite news sources: By all means ... keep your head where it is warm and moist and sound proof... anything you dont agree with is lies by leftist liberal pukes right?
How does one stare at an orange and conclude since it is not grown 'properly' it is not organic? OR...how long does it take to turn an orange non-organic in one's mind? If there is a 'ton of evidence' they why can't you come up with even 1 example?
Of course, in our ignorance really, and our fixed mind set, we are totally overlooking a highly nutrisious, easy to farm, high in protein, and extremely good logical food source..[video=youtube;z1jOM_QKwZk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=z1jOM_QKwZk[/video]
Still waiting for your specific example of people getting sick from bioengineered foods. Got anything? Hint: Poisoning animals in a lab doesn't count. Educate yourself please... http://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...-indulgence-the-world-cant-afford-818585.html You should be aware of the danger in consuming faux-labeled so-called 'organic' food. There have been 20 recalls of organic products for adulteration and contamination in the past two years, including Andrew Williamson Fresh Produce organic grape tomatoes for Salmonella and Starwest Botanicals Organic Celery Seed for Salmonella contamination. And the USDA recalled 34,000 pounds of organic beef in December 2010 for E. coli contamination. http://foodpoisoningbulletin.com/2012/organic-foods-not-always-safer/
Great! We go from eating weeds and worms to eating hand-raised chicken and beef back to 'organic' farming riddled with E-Coli and now back to eating worms!? How 'progressive' is that?
Apparently it could be very, had you actually bothered to listen to the vid, and think about what was said.
That is an insane video. In America we are paying farmers NOT to grow food!! Our population is below the rate of replacement. Food is among the cheapest commodity there is. Funny how some of the eco-fraud, liberal, food-nazis decry using insect genes to customize seeds but are seemingly perfectly willing to applaud feeding the world with insects. Of course they never think it would apply to them...Oh No...Not them! It's all those 'other' people......
No. Logical. Plentiful. More economical. Easier to produce. More environmentally friendly. Full of goodness. That is five good opening reasons not to be so dismissive.
It's not about what I may or may not eat. I don't eat a lot of things. I think you are overlooking the logic, and are fixed on being aghast, yet, in the end, I cannot see it as any more freaky than eating prawns or crabs, and a good bit better than eating pie's that have cow's bollox in them.
I have no idea what a bollox is and the market will decide if people will spend their money on worms or steak. I would put my money on steak. The worms would make good chicken feed if it were cheap enough. - - - Updated - - - and prawns and crabs are the best...beats worms anytime!!!
