Well, so much for Tulsi Gabbard

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  1. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'll be voting, I just won't be voting for garbage candidates.
     
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    I can only make conclusions from your post.
    This so called election fraud BS has been labeled the Big Lie by the left, who were the same left indorsing it for 4 years.
    My suspicions became heightened when (for the first time in history) election site computers were shut down overnight and magically, the vote shifts aren't mathematically probable. Seems unfortunate that people are becoming more and more willing to label the election results as absolute and any question as to their viability makes you (X).

    I believe it is our duty to question and verify as it is the only way voter integrity can be restored instead of labeling anyone who dares broach the subject.

    Writing in your vote for a candidate not on the ballot certainly counts for you, but unfortunately, not for the electorate.
     
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    It was long evident that she belonged in the Republican party. Now she is. Its just sad that she went so far to the extremist side, as she could have been a good step in restoring that party's authenticity.
     
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    Right....
    Now that we've all had a bellyful of the democrat's plans for us, knowing it will continue on the same course with greater magnitude, why would anyone want to see America made great again?
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, they were wrong.

    People weren't "questioning" the election results. Trump isn't questioning them, his lackey's aren't questioning. They are declaring the results fraudulent, based on nothing except that Trump didn't win when apparently he was supposed to.

    Questioning is fine. Making claims without evidence is not. Isn't that why you guys constantly bring up Russian collusion when it comes to Trump? People made that claim without the evidence to support it, and surprise surprise, they were wrong.


    It counts like every other vote does. The only votes who actually "matter" are the votes for the person that wins. If you voted for anyone other than the winner, you "wasted" your vote. But that's nonsense. Your vote is your voice.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why would anyone think that Trump and his ilk even care about America let alone have the capability to make it great again.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, I would be fine with her as a Non-MAGA Republican. I liked what she said about extremists. But supporting people like Kari Lake just tells me she doesn't have a problem with extremists as much as she has a problem with extremists she doesn't agree with.
     
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    So it is OK for you have a favorite candidate but not her. That doesn't sound very American to me.
     
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    She's been MAGA for years. She's just now starting to admit it, that's all. The woman has no honor.
     
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    Calling out her own party for their extremist positions, doesn't make her an extremist. She was a candidate for the Democratic nomination in the 2020 United States presidential election.

    While a member of Congress, she served as a vice chair of the Democratic National Committee.

    She ended her presidential candidacy to endorse Joe Biden. But since she has taken conservative positions on issues such as abortion, transgender rights, and Parental Rights in Education she magically overnight became an extremist because she left the Democrat party?

    Sounds more like the extremism is yours. Unless you can provide a list of her extreme positions.
     
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    It's always a bummer when someone you admire turns out to be unworthy.
     
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    You're just playing on word twisting. And to claim no evidence exist is just ignoring information for a political agenda. But you can believe anything you want.

    If you are voting for someone on the ballot, your candidate has a chance of being elected.
    If you are writing in a candidate not on the ballot, there is no chance what so ever your candidate will be elected and you have sacrificed your vote for something that can't have any possibility of coming to fruition.

    The best you could even hope for is it made you feel better
     
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    Fair enough
     
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    I never said she couldn't have a favorite candidate, only that if that's the type of candidate she is going to support, I won't be supporting her.
     
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    She has no honor?
    Deployments to Kuwait and Iraq
    Officer with National Guard
    U.S. representative for Hawaii's 2nd congressional district
    Ended her presidential candidacy to endorse Joe Biden

    But because her views don't align with yours she has no honor?
    You sound like Trump
     
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    I was actually hoping Democrats would have supported her in her presidential run.
    I would have voted for her.
     
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    I was also hoping she'd be the start of a new IND party, but I guess she has other plans. The thirds of Independents did not want Trump to return, so she is risking losing the IND support and counting only on maggat support.
     
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    How do you think the situation is going to change she does not support most of the Republican candidates? Her point was that the Democrat party is now run by a bunch of rich elitists who hypocritically call for “the little people” to live as they command while they get richer and more powerful by pushing policies that don’t apply to them.

    The Democrats in the House and Senate pretty much vote as a unit. It does not matter what they say now when they are trying to get elected. Once they are back in Washington, they will vote the way Pelosi and Schumer tell them to vote. For that reason, I can’t vote for any Democrat because a vote of them is a vote for Pelosi, Schumer and Biden.
     
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    What good is "the Independent Party?" We have two "Independents" in the Senate, Angus King and Bernie Sanders. Both of them are far leftists who caucus with the Democrats.

    The Independent label means nothing. It's a code word for radical left.
     
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    If that's true, then vast majority (71%) of Americans are "radical left" (registered dems (28% + registered independents 43%).

    What makes you say that? Oh, I get it, - unless you are a registered Republican, the you must be "radical left". LOL. Yup, that's how some people see it.
     
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    "Independent" is a label that is applied to voters who are not registered with either party. In New England "Independent" is the label that King and Sanders use to make them look cool. The term has been been given two meanings.

    If Sanders had switched to the Democrat Party after the 2016 primaries, he might have gotten their nomination in 2020. As it was he stayed "Independent" and therefore and outsider. If I were a Democrat, I would not be comfortable giving him my party's presidential nomination.
     
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    It looks like you got sucked in by WORDS.
    Would you care if they didn't refer to Kari Lake as a "MAGA Star"?
    Which of Kari Lake's policies do you think are too "MAGA"?
     
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    They don't have to refer to her as anything, she was picked by Donald Trump which means she has agreed to him to abide by a set of requirements which include total loyalty to him and total loyalty to his election fraud bullshit. Trump only picks candidates who kiss the ring. And when they don't, he drops them.
     
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    Say what you will, but Independents are bigger segment (43%) and GOP (28%) or Dems (28%) of registered voters. Feel free to label them all "radical left" because Sanders is "I" in the Senate (and I agree THAT means nothing). but its an inane claim.

    In 2020 there were a group of Republicans who wanted to form a moderate-conservative party made up of independents and moderates from both parties. and their projected voting bloc was to be independents.
     
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    LOL at a group of people severely infected with TDS freaking out when somebody doesn't carry the same disease.
     

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