Well, so much for Tulsi Gabbard

It's amazing how Trump lives rent free in people's heads.

I'm sorry the Democrats are such a dumpster fire they run off someone like Gabbard

 

Trump is very much a current political figure whose power and influence over this country did not go away just because he left office. Pretending otherwise is either ignorance or deliberate deflection.

 

I agree with you and Junkie that she might just be making this move for political gain, as her positions overall currently do play better on the Republican side of the isle than they do on the Democrat side.

That's why I don't trust her enough to ever vote for her, but I do welcome her over to the "right side".

 

Same goes to you, good sir.

 

... and Elon Musk...

 

While very true, I don't understand what this has to do with his comment about the Democrats being such a dumpster fire that they actively push away people like Tulsi... That's been happening and is going to happen regardless of Trump's influence.

 

You're making excuses for not understanding others. It's really the sort of thing puritans did.

Has it ever crossed your mind that Trump was popular because of what he said and did and not because some cabal terminal duped people?

I saw the same thing with Barack Obama people said he was a massiah and people followed him for no reason.

 

I wonder how long it'll be before the electric car is no longer the answer for global warming.

No current electric car in the market today would exist if it weren't for Elon musk.

 

And Biden

 

In other words, the OP is party > country at all costs.

Trump was literally a man who defied both parties to get elected and to bring a common Middle ground to America. Both sides, with the exception of a few Republicans hung him out to dry.

maybe you should be worried about the "establishment" and not MAGA. MAGA is something everyone should want.

 

One line? lol

As CNN political commentator Ana Navarro-Cárdenas tweeted, “Folks, when both the Russians and Trump support someone, be wary. Be very wary.”

 

Yep, racists on both sides, just enough at least


Diaper Donnie ran on taxing the rich:

“I do very well. I don't mind paying a little more in taxes. The middle class is getting clobbered in this country." A month later, he unveiled his tax plan in Trump Tower and declared, "It’s going to cost me a fortune, which is actually true."


You know, I was with Bob Kraft the other night. He came to have dinner with me. He’s a friend of mine. And as he left, he said, Donald, don’t worry about the rich people. Tax the rich people. You got to take care of the people in the country. It was a very interesting statement. I feel the same way. ...

Trump’s tax cuts helped billionaires pay less than the working class for first time
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/09/trump-tax-cuts-helped-billionaires-pay-less

How offshoring rolled along under Trump, who vowed to stop it
https://www.reuters.com/business/ho...ong-under-trump-who-vowed-stop-it-2021-01-19/

During Trump Presidency, 200,000 Jobs Offshored and Corporations Involved Awarded $425 Billion in Federal Contracts
https://www.commondreams.org/newswi...s-offshored-and-corporations-involved-awarded

Hey but at least "there's fine people on both sides" right

 

The Offshoring of U.S. Jobs Increased on Trump’s Watch
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/news...st-the-hard-data-on-trump-s-offshoring-record
During Trump Presidency, 200,000 Jobs Offshored and Corporations Involved Awarded $425 Billion in Federal Contracts
https://www.commondreams.org/newswi...s-offshored-and-corporations-involved-awarded


Supports increasing the minimum wage No Trump opposed raising the minimum wage.


I guess we can be thankful he got his infrastructure through though

December 29, 2017

"Infrastructure is, by far, the easiest," Trump said after signing the tax bill last week. "People want it, Republicans and Democrats. We're gonna have tremendous Democrat support of infrastructure, as you know. I could have started with infrastructure. I actually wanted to save the easy one for the one down the road."

Trump’s tax cuts helped billionaires pay less than the working class for first time
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/09/trump-tax-cuts-helped-billionaires-pay-less

 

You mean in theory or in practice?

" I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED "



Six drastic plans Trump is already promising for a second term


Execute drug dealers
Move homeless people to outlying ‘tent cities’
Deploy federal force against crime, unrest and protests
Strip job protections for federal workers
Eliminate the Education Department
Restrict voting to one day using paper ballots
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/16/trump-speeches-extreme-agenda-2024-bid/

NO PAYWALL LINK
https://archive.ph/7Mkmc

Scalise acknowledges GOP plan to change Social Security, Medicare


The first is the nature of the GOP pitch: Republicans don’t intend to “cut” Social Security and Medicare, Scalise argued, so much as the party intends to “shore up” the programs’ finances. At first blush, that might sound worthwhile, but as the Bloomberg report added, “To avoid insolvency in the programs, spending would need to be cut, revenue raised or some combination of the two.”

Quite right. Indeed, the arithmetic is stubborn: If Republicans intend to “strengthen” the social insurance programs — sometimes referred to as “entitlements” — Social Security and Medicare would need to either spend less money, take in more money, or some combination of the two.

GOP officials aren’t about to raise taxes anytime soon, so that necessarily means spending less on benefits that Americans currently enjoy. Scalise doesn’t want that to be seen as a “cut.”
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...lan-change-social-security-medicare-rcna52578



'Hatemonger' Paints Trump Advisor Stephen Miller As A 'Case Study In Radicalization'

Miller has been seen as a link between the white nationalist agenda and the Trump White House.

Journalist Jean Guerrero traces the origins of Miller's anti-immigrant policies in a new book.
https://insidesources.com/mainstream-dems-ask-is-tulsi-gabbard-a-russian-asset/

Stephen Miller’s Affinity for White Nationalism Revealed in Leaked Emails
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...nity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails

The consequences of Steve Bannon's ideas need to be interrogated, not just his words

In his interview with Sarah Ferguson on the ABC, Steve Bannon sought to distance himself from the openly neo-Nazi far right, blaming their surge on the dreaded mainstream media. With extraordinary chutzpah, he said, “they’ve given a bunch of marginal, dangerous people a platform”.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...as-need-to-be-interrogated-not-just-his-words

1. BANNON IS A MAJOR INFLUENCER ON THE FAR RIGHT

Steve Bannon is a far-right political provocateur, constantly telling his supporters that mainstream media and leaders hate them and that their activism is “an act of populism.”

2. BANNON CHAMPIONS NATIONALISTS IN THE US, EUROPE AND ELSEWHERE


4. UNDER BANNON, BREITBART PUBLISHED INFLAMMATORY PIECES ABOUT WOMEN, MUSLIMS, AND OTHER POPULATIONS.

5. BANNON HAS FACED A NUMBER OF CHARGES

In August 2020, Bannon was arrested for defrauding donors in a scheme to privately raise money for building a wall along the Southern US border, a project that former President Trump promoted.
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/steve-bannon-five-things-to-know

Of course Diaper Donnie pardoned him

 

Folks who call themselves Independence know they are free to choose the candidate regardless of party affiliation. That is what Gabbard is doing. Gabbard has not wavered on her opposition to US involvement in the war in Europe. That is one of her main concerns with both the Democrats and Republicans although I doubt there are any Democratic candidates who are against US involvement. There are some Republican candidates who are although not many. Kari Lake is someone who agrees with Tulsi Gabbard, and not just on the war issue but also the border crisis which effects her state. To my knowledge Trump also opposes the US involvement. So instead of lumping Gabbard into one category try understanding why she supports certain candidates first. No candidate is going to represent a voter's position on all the issues as we all know, we pick the candidate who promotes a voter's most relevant issues. That is why Gabbard is campaigning for Lake.

 

I laugh whenever out of touch politicians say to "just buy an electric car" in response to skyrocketing gas prices that THEY are causing with THEIR energy policies and their overall "build back better" agenda.

They are incredibly out of touch if they think that an impractical-in-many-situations, more expensive, more dangerous, less lifespan vehicle appeals to the majority of the working class.

 

Biden is still a Democrat, dude.

 

Fake news. Minimum wage is nothing more than a price control. It leads to shortages, as all price controls do.

 

Democrats can't be in people's heads....? How do you figure people insert his name in every post if he is not in their heads?

 

So would it be fair to assume you're an extremist who supports sexual misconduct because you support the Clintons?
How about a racist extremist for supporting the party that labels Larry Elder of being the black face of white supremacy

If you're going to label Tulsi as an extremist for supporting one party candidate over another then you will have to bear the brunt of your own convictions.
Or is this just another Rules for thee and not for me lefty position?

 

I have no idea what you are even babbling on about at this point. It has no coherent point.

 

Tulsi Gabbert has hard to pin down. She supported Bernie Sanders in 2016 which would make her totally unacceptable to me. If she still thinks that he's some special, she's entitled to her opinion, but I have no desire got her mixed up in Republican politics.

 

Sorry you lost track

Don't worry, - it could happen to a lot of people, especially the elderly.

Pick up the pieces and move on.

 

In 10 years from now everybody will change their mind on electric cars will realize what a disaster they are.

The far less ecological than a regular car.

 

Trump has never been moderate in his life. He changes as the winds change if it gets what he wants. He has maintained some consistency, namely in his trade policies. In the 1980s, it was Japan. In the 1990s, it was South Korea. In the 2000s, it was Mexico. And when he ran for President, it was China. But the same premise always remained and that is that country was "always cheating" and we need protectionism. But for everything else, he has never held to that standard in his lifetime.

On the other hand, Trump has always been known for "faking it." Remember when he built the Taj Mahal? He used Junk Bonds and made the project from $200 million to over $1 billion. and yet, he never fully paid for the services he rendered and sought. Over 400 small firms were owed money. Most were only paid half of what they owed. And he said that it will change gambling forever. Then he got involved in boxing and never knew anything about boxing. then he got into the pageants but did not know how it worked. He pretended to be his own book agent, named John Barron. And finally, he says he builty his company from nothing while the reality is he inherited it, some of his family said, stole, of a $400 million dollar business.