Well, so much for Tulsi Gabbard

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The DNC doesn't really exist anymore.

    They have pandered to the fringe.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which explains precisely the importance of a viable third party.
     
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    ShadowX Well-Known Member

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    Cant have a third party. You would need 4. You need either one party who takes equally from both which is almost impossible. Or you need two parties each who takes approx the same amount of votes from both sides.
     
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    Who cares if Trump endorses someone? Which of her policies do you not like? This is a political forum and she is running for political office. Its cool if you don't like her, but which policies of hers cause you to feel this way?
     
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  5. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Clearly you didn't read your own article.

    "Apparently, that’s all a person needs to do to be a Russian asset: dare to criticize the Democratic Party."
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where's Joe McCarthy when you need him? We've never had so many commie sympathizers running around trying to destroy our country.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/168151/institutions-save-republican-authoritarianism
     
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    Reread what you said. It agrees with me.
     
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    Instead of trying to balance it, why not let the voters decide. I think lot of people are sick and tired of "R" and "D" and would be happy to vote for 3rd party if it had any chance to win
     
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    Oh no!!! The HORROR!!!!!!

    As far as I can tell, she isn't aligning herself with either political party atm. Her supporting someone such as Kari Lake doesn't surprise me one bit, and honestly Tulsi is welcome in MAGA as far as I am concerned. So are you, if you'd one day realize that MAGA isn't the "evil" that your TV screen portrays them as.

    Well, you know the Rolling Stones song...

    Alrighty.

    Oh no... the HORROR!

    What is a "regular Republican"?

    Oh no... the HORROR!

    Obviously you have never ever listened to her speak nor even taken the time to learn her plans for Arizona and what she stands for. She took down Dana Bash's (CNN) loaded questions quite handily (as a member of the media for 30 years, she knows full well how they operate) meanwhile Katie Hobbs struggled so bad with her questioning (couldn't even answer a simple question about where she stands on abortion) that CNN didn't upload her performance to their YouTube channel and YouTube was scrubbing other people's videos of her pitiful performance. Embarrassing!

    Kari Lake is the real deal and will be an OUTSTANDING governor for Arizona WHEN she wins in November.

    GOOD! There's mountains of evidence for it, and there definitely needs to be much scrutiny on making sure that elections are absolutely legitimate and secure. It should never even be questionable, let alone downright fraudulent.

    ... and rightfully so. Who wants tyrannical communists in control of everything?? Who wants people who support abortions up to the moment of birth in positions of power? Who wants people who support mutilating the genitals of little kids in positions of power? Who wants people who will force you to undergo invasive medical procedures in positions of power? Who wants people in positions of power who will tell you to "just buy an electric vehicle" (that you can't afford) as a response to high gas prices that THEY caused with their war on carbon based fuels Who wants people in positions of power who want to push for the masses to eat crickets rather than eating red meat, all in the name of "climate crisis"?

    These people are absolutely NUTS!

    Opposing all of the very extreme positions listed above is not in the slightest bit "extreme", so this label is completely stupid. These are the SENSIBLE positions to be taking. Promoting secure, lawful, and legitimate election results is sensible. Taking action against the floods of illegals invading our country and the floods of fentanyl coming over our border is sensible. Promoting life over death is sensible. Saving women's sports is sensible. Saving children's genitals from being mutilated ("transgender surgery") by mentally ill adults is sensible. ... and on and on and on....

    She largely "gets it" regarding economics, but seriously needs to rethink her socialist ways. Same with Bernie and his followers... They all largely "get it" regarding economics, but socialism is NOT the answer...

    You need to stop believing the lies about MAGA and embrace people who actually want economic security, want our own country to thrive, and want to live as free people. Live free or die!
     
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    Agreed.

    That would be a VERY good pick and an EXCELLENT ticket.

    GOD no.... AWFUL pick.

    He will run, and unless he is being held as a political prisoner he will win the nomination no matter who runs against him.

    It isn't, and it's still a bad ticket.

    Trump is not stupid, and would make a MUCH better President than DeSantis because Trump is "America First" while DeSantis is "Wall Street Mega-donors first". Specifically regarding national level economic policy that will benefit working class citizens, Trump is the only real option. The others are all bought and paid for...
     
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    I will be writing in Donald Trump in 2024 if he is not on the ballot. I will no longer support anyone for President who is funded by Wall Street mega-donors and will likewise actively work against the economic interests of Main Street working class citizens.

    2024 for me atm is Trump or bust, unless someone else runs who isn't supported by and beholden to Wall Street money.
     
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    I read this and find it appalling. Why not vote for the Democrats and get it over with? Throwing your vote away on someone who is not even on the ballot is a total waste.

    I was on a Republican blog for a number of years. The person who ran and sponsored it wrote in Mike Pence’s name in 2020 because he couldn’t stand Trump. You couldn’t make the Bill Buckley argument to him that half loaf is better than nothing. He had “principles.” Ha! He had his head up his posterior.

    Anything the Democrats nominate in President in 2024 will be less than nothing. They will advocate tearing our county’s economy and culture to pieces just like the puppet handlers who pull Biden’s strings are doing right now.

    I live in Florida, and I've watched Ron DeSantis. He would make a great president. He's my first choice, but there are some other alternatives.
     
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    Yeah, those "extremists" on the right are despicable; image wanting the productive wing of our country to keep more of what they produce; or that our children should be taught their ABCs or 123s before learn how to put a condom on a cucumber, or wanting surgery to cut off their dicks or boobs; that some whites can write stuff worth reading or art that is beautiful; or that all that is correct and good doesn't come from 535 self-important blowhards in Washington, DC.

    Yeah, radical stuff. :rolleyes:
     
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    To me, endorsing Lake is extreme. But thanks for the Tulsi history lesson. While you may not believe it, some of us Dems were well aware of her prior to this news item.
     
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    I think with a truth serum we'd find out that she saw the opportunity of the Republican party as being more fruitful for her than the Dems. She knows she has a following of Republican men, so why not? This is a career move instead of a gut check...she will go much further on the right than the left.
     
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    It has to suck for democrats when one of their own elected politicians who ran for president and was the DNC vice chair endorses a conservative only a week after calling democrats woke elitist racists, has been on Fox News and just compared Biden, who she endorsed, to Hitler.
     
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    Without mentioning Trump’s complaint about losing the election, what is extreme about MAGA?
     
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    It seems some haven’t quite haven’t figured out who the “extremists” are yet. My god, where have they been the last 7 years?
     
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    It does suck. She was one of the moderates who seemed to have a good head on her shoulders. She's not progressive or woke. To see her supporting Trump candidates is truly heartbreaking.
     
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    I support your choice to vote for the person who you feel best represents you no matter who that is even if I probably wouldn't support the person you choose.
     
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    What is about Trump candidates that you disagree with?
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I admit it could be hard to see, depending on where your head is at. But where the sun shines, it's obvious.
     
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    Okay, and I find "battered conservative syndrome" to be appalling. So?

    Because they are completely insane.

    Most of the time, yes, but not always. You might understand my position better and be less appalled by it if I were to explain it a bit.

    When it comes to choosing between a Wall Street funded Democrat and a Wall Street funded Republican for President, is there really a "better choice"? They are both funded by Wall Street and will both serve the economic interests of Wall Street rather than Main Street all the same.

    The Federal level is lost at this point (due to 4th branch of government, the intelligence branch) and Trump is the only person atm who can stand resolute against that, and to resolutely stand for national level economic policies that benefit Main Street rather than Wall Street because he isn't funded by any pro-Wall Street mega-donors like the other Republicans who will be running for President are. Even DeSantis is very largely funded by such people, thus is also beholden to their globalist pro-Wall Street economic interests at the national level.

    Anyone other than Trump really won't be any different, economically speaking, so it really doesn't matter. Now, with regard to Representatives and Senators and State and Local level politicians?? I will by all means vote for RINOs if they are the only swallowable option available because they are "at least slightly better than the crazed Dems", as their votes will and do matter when it comes to "holding back the floodgates of leftist crazy" (and maybe even advancing a bit of good policy).

    But the President position specifically is much more about national economic policies (such as pro-oil vs pro-windmills), and Wall Street wants windmills for Main Street, and anyone funded by Wall Street is going to ultimately cave to their interests and ultimately advance Team Windmill over Team Oil, which harms Main Street. This is why Trump is absolutely essential and why he is the only viable candidate for President at this point... Any other candidate is to advance the overarching pro-Wall Street anti-Main Street agenda.

    A stupid move, imo. Mike Pence is a traitorous RINO, while Trump is the best President in modern history.

    I can't imagine what his beef was with Trump besides maybe "mean tweets"...

    True.

    True........ but what many people don't understand is that a Republican President who is funded by Wall Street mega-donors won't be any better with regard to economic policy.

    You have a VERY good governor, who should STAY governor, but who instead has Presidential aspirations because he currently has an over $200M war chest that he hasn't spent on his gubernatorial race.

    Absolutely not. He is funded by Wall Street mega-donors (where do you think he got his over $200M war chest from??) He is going to be the 2024 "splitter candidate", just as Ted Cruz was the 2016 "splitter candidate". He, like Cruz, will be presented to people as the "electable" alternative to Trump, which translated actually means the "RNC club ACCEPTABLE" alternative to Trump because DeSantis can be controlled by the RNC club because the RNC club has already bought him out to the tune of over $200M.

    This is what I mean by "battered conservative syndrome". Conservatives keep voting for the same "bought and paid for" people who will always ultimately cave to Wall Street instead of standing up for Main Street. This is why TRUMP is absolutely ESSENTIAL in 2024.

    Trump is my first and only choice. All other choices for President can go to hell.
     
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    Then who should she support? There are 2 parties, you support the D or the R, that’s it unless you want to waste your time.

    So who should she support? Give us names.
     
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    Likely easier to get rich by joing MAGA for now.
    Maybe she just likes to float with the wind. Where ever she thinks she can get the most money.
    That's what politicians like once they've been around a while.
     

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