Why are 1,500 Americans still dying from COVID every week?

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I recommend you base your medical knowledge and attitudes based on what the medical community says, not what the government says. Government is crippled by politics.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    It is endemic but not so dangerous these days. We should treat like a serious flu.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Holy Moly what a pile of propaganda and bile .. fake science .. false statistics .. coupled with fallacious appeal to authority fallacy (appealing to an authority who is not even an authority)

    Make sure you include the Pneumonia deaths .. along with the Flu deaths .. as has been done with the 1500 Covid number. So for every 1 flu death there are 9 die from pneumonia (cause by the flu but cause of death is pneumonia .. not flu) which means the actual weekly deaths from the flue is closer to 1600 .. round the same as Covid.

    There is no empirical evidence suggesting that the Jab helps healthy folks avoid hospitalization/death in general .. and there is no evidence in the report showing that the death toll among the extremely old - Morbidly Obese - immune compromised with numerous co-morbidities .. represented a higher number than the vaxed .. which would be the minimum they should be giving in support of claim.

    The piece is pure propaganda nonsense .. falsehood and lies .. starting with the insinuation that the numbers would be lower were healthy people and those who are not dramatically unhealthy to take the covid Jab.

    Not knowing the connection between reporting of Influenza figures and Pneumonia we can jot down to the author not having much of an understanding of the subject matter.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The medical community has abandoned the first definition and wholeheartedly embraced the 2nd.
     
  5. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Um.....what appeal to authority are you referring to, and which stats are you disputing?

    You mean like I said in the OP

    "By comparison, there were 163 weekly deaths from the flu for the week ending Dec. 9"
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What part the question .. are deaths from pneumonia included in the 163 figure .. did you not understand ? and same for the Covid figure .. which for sure is including death by Pneumonia.

    "What appeal to Authority " --- Some Expert said -- is your answer -- followed by no support for this claim in the numbers given .. false conclusion based on fake science.

    What was disputed was the conclusion that the number of folks dying was related to the statically low uptake of the Vax by healthy people.
     
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    I don't know. We were told by government officials that getting the shot would keep us from getting COVID. When that turned out to be a lie they had to change the definition of a vaccine, or people wouldn't get it. I do believe they actually thought getting the jab was going to be an effective way of managing COVID.

    What bothers me is how many people just bought that line and accepted it. Vaccination and immunization were synonymous until COVID, and the fact that we've eradicated diseases proves that relationship was valid.

    Calling it the straw the broke the camels back is fair, but I could just as easily argue that if they hadn't developed COPD then they would still be alive despite getting COVID.
     
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    As long as we allow Fauci and friends to lead the way out of this (the same people that got us into it), we are doomed imo.
     
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    No we shouldn't because nature gave us the flu.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, he is no leading anything, this is just the new reality which we just need to accept as a fact if life. The best the high-risk people can do it minimize the risk of getting infected.
     
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    I never bought the line but retirement home where my mother lived wouldnt allow visitation without it, so I got the one shot. Wasnt but a month or two later with people fully vaccinated dying from Covid that they dropped the requirement. Still haven't forgiven the bastards for that.
     
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    No we aren't going to accept it. We aren't just going to be guinea pigs for an international group of labcoats because they are curious about their ability to manipulate life. I call upon all peoples who believe in a creator god(s) to stand against these reckless fools.
     
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    Incorrect.
     
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    Incorrect.
     
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    ????? The Covid vaccine meets the new definition and does not meet the old. The medical community is all in on the Covid vaccines.
     
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    Dr. Ryan Cole stated that there was evidence indicating that the Covid 19 vaccine decrease the over all immune response of those who took the vaccine by about twenty percent.

    Certain types of cancers are up by about two thousand percent in his state, Idaho, in 2021.

    The corruption of Washington, D. C. is becoming more and more apparent.....
    the truth cannot be hidden for too much longer. We all know or soon will know that FactCheck .org was lying.....
    and Dr. Ryan Cole was telling the truth.....
    the numbers are too big to be hidden for a very long period of time.

    Idaho Doctor Makes Baseless Claims About Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines
    By Saranac Hale Spencer

    Posted on April 19, 2021 | Updated on February 10, 2022



    My guess is that the population of Newfoundland, Labrador, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, Saskatchewan and B. C. and the N.W.T. had a very high rate of people actually taking the Covid 19 vaccine and the boosters.

    https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/230828/dq230828b-eng.htm

     
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    Does it ever !!! Have not red so many unfounded "theories about a medical situation since Covid was i full bloom.
    With all the accurate information available , it is puzzling to see that many are so uninformed ...but buy into old wives tales.
    Medical FACTS?? don't even factor in.This seems to be a bi product of "social" media. Which is NOT a source for science based into.
     
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    Medicine isn't about definitions. You are confusing politics with medicine. As I said earlier, that is akin to combining drinking and driving.
     
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    And it gave you covid with some help from a virology lab. My meaning wasn't meant to be confusing. I meant that our response to covid should be the same as our response to flu. If you want to throw politics into that then leave me out.
     
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    He did lead something. And during that time he was responsible for funding the "research" that created the covid virus. Then he lied about that and many other things to the world. Sorry, I don't accept that as a fact of life. I'll leave that up to you.
     
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    No. They are dying from the virus and the vast majority haven't had any vaccine. They are vaccines and are effective. Hope that helps.

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    p.s. Sanctions haven't backfired, NATO is not losing and Ukraine doesn't have Nazis.
     
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    Nonsense. The medical communities embrace of the COVID vaccine isnt politics. You yourself have recognized that

    while the CDC and the medical community have eliminated that definition in the embrace of the new definition that replaces it.
     
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    Anyone downplaying the danger humanity is in regarding what is happening in these labs is subject to my criticism.
     
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    I don't mind the criticism but I stand by what I wrote.
     

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