Why do 'pro lifers' only care about life inside the womb?

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  1. Jack Napier

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    It doesn't though.

    Besides, their very title, PRO LIFE, it implies that they care about all life, when evidently, they care only that they can force their views on others, using terrorist tactics and even murder if need be.

    Which should tell you all you need to know about the so called pro life movement.
     
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    It does seem odd to me, the anti-abortionists' position on this. They're so busy trying to punish abortion that they never get around to noticing that criminalizing abortions encourages them. Like the punishment means more to them than the prevention.

    If you want fewer abortions, reduce poverty. But if you just want to punish abortion, then by all means, keep it illegal -- that will help to guarantee that you'll have a steady stream of people to punish.
     
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    Oh they know it is a direct consequence.

    But as long as they can make it illegal, they convince themselves that they have 'won' the day, and all those wickle babies are going to be saved. They just ignore the masses who won't, because that doesn't fit in with their delusion.

    Look, here is how sick some of these people are.

    A few years ago, I happened to be having an online chat, with a lady who was American, and claimed to be 'Christian'.

    Now, if what she stands for is meant to be a force for 'good', then what I heard next didn't sound much like any force for good to me, or any rational person.

    In her world no child is 'innocent'.

    Thus, in the case of a cot death, the baby is not a poor innocent human being, but has 'sinned' in some way?

    See, that sounds like some pretty mixed up s*** right there.
     
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    Yes, they are.
     
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    To be clear, what does it mean to say "only care about life inside the womb"? I might agree that a woman has a right to control whether, how and when she reproduces but this particular statement amuses me. Can you give an illustration of how, in general, pro lifers are not sufficiently concerned with post birth human life?
     
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    He's projecting his own bias while creating a strawman.
     
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    He probably meant that pro-lifers don't generally favor socialized medicine and other government services. Loving life necessarily means loving government because the state is the source of all life.
     
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    Are you being satirical?
     
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    The reason they dont care is because once its born its fate if it dies. However if its killed before birth, they think it never had a chance to die.
     
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    Who thinks or says that when the born die it's merely fate?
     
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    War. Capital punishment. Poverty.
     
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    This is caring from the progressives?

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    Isn't that what you're doing Jack? Aren't you forcing your attitude of death to the unborn on the rest of us? I don't like it but i can't stop people from doing it. What i DON'T want to do is to be forced to fund something thru my tax dollars that i don't approve.
     
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    You could replace roughly 90% of the posts on this (or any) forum with the above statement.
     
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    In my opinion, it is more ethical to prevent the need for any medical procedure of abortion of a fellow human being; rather than simply insist on the coercive use of force of our secular and temporal State without also offering recourse to that infrastructure.
     
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    Im not sure whether i should be happy or not about your comment.
     
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    Unfortunately, Jack, absolutely nothing you say is true. Starting with supporting a womans right to have a termination. A termination. Isn't that cute. You mean to kill the fetus. In the case of almost ready to be born, kill the baby. Or, perhaps like a lot of liberals you support post-natal abortions. Playing with words when what you mean is so cute, especially for a pacificst.

    I don't object to supporting the child although I do question leaving the child to be raised by a mother who is unfit. I would personally prefer having the baby's father involved, whether he can support the child or not, but liberals prefer single-parent homes. They are more controllable and control is what it's about.

    I admire your position that killing the baby is preferable to the alternatives. Well, yes, life is such a horrible alternative. I personally weep when I see liberals struggling to live and agree with you that a termination would probably be better than the alternative living. Sounds stupid, doesn't it, Jack? That's because it is stupid.

    On the other hand, abortion on demand has met the liberal's desire to limit the reproduction of minorities in the U.S. That is one of the goals, isn't it?
     
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    In my opinion, persons of alleged morals would be more credible if they were advocating more for anti-hypocrisy laws than for laws which would only deny and disparage forms of individual liberty.
     
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    At least as reported over here, the people who (bizarrely) describe themselves as being pro-life believe in arming people to the teeth, so that citizens can kill one another easily, attacking any country big business wants to attack and killing vast numbers of people there, executing as many prisoners as they possibly can, preventing the development of even an apology for a decent Health Service to save the lives of the poor and preventing 'red tape' such as laws that protect working people from the greed and incompetence of their employers' killing them. And so on. We don't have many of these nutters over here, and none of them so far have murdered doctors to prove their belief in life either.
     
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    5 pages and nobody has really answered the question. Although Object227 did have a good point, the question is not really based on truth.

    But I'll play.

    The answer, in a nutshell, is about innocence. Libs are pro-abortion and anti-pro-lifer because it's all about "individual liberty" as danielpalos mentioned.

    What about the individual liberty of the yet-to-be-born child? Who is standing up for his or her rights to liberty? You are very quick to favor the death of an innocent person, yet from the other side of your mouth you are very quick to favor the life of a guilty person. Talk about the ultimate flip-flop.

    So, the short answer to "Why do 'pro lifers' only care about life inside the womb?" which, should be reworded to "Why do 'pro lifers' care about life inside the womb?" is "Because nobody else seems to anymore."
     
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