Why Globalization Is In Best Interests of Western Men

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No legal limits, but as a society we need to encourage whatever will make our nation prosper. I look at like this; what is the single greatest accomplishment of a civilzation, ever ? I would assert it is when the US put man on the moon. That feat, for its time, is greater than any invention or disovery before or after it. To get to that point, it required a stable and propsperous society and the culture that got us there was a Traditional Patriarchy from the 1900s onward. What's wrong with wanting to emmulate the best ?
     
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    What utter bullcrap. Judging by all of your spelling errors, women are at LEAST better at writing than you. I suspect you are intimidated by a strong female personality. Women gaining independence has nothing to do with your "sky is falling" conspiracy against women.
     
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    you realize in your definition the losers are american workers and the winners are bangladeshi or indian ones right?
     
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    Saying women aren't mature enough , are mere children (comparing them to 16 year olds) went the way of the Dodo bird and passenger pigeon a couple of centuries ago.

    You think people should be restricted based on their sex? That's is EXACTLY like restricting someone based on their race ....

    You: ""Equal rights does not mean what's best for society.""""

    HILARIOUS! YOU MEAN " I want slaves not competition !""""



    BTW, who do weak men blame for all the bad things that happened BEFORE feminisim ???
     
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    I like America. I like my country. I like other cultures too. One of the interesting things about our world is our DIFFERENCES, IMO.

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    Ha ha! Good point. Men have made a mess of things, but they want to blame everything on women gaining independence and being able to choose and carve out their own paths in life. If women don't want to get with a man or marry him, then I would suggest he do some soul searching because the problem is probably himself.
     
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    The modern neoliberal conservative and the corporate, banking cabal democrats welcome it as well. It originated with the GOP, once Reagan brought them back into power. Clinton moved right, into conservative driven neoliberalism, and the rest is history.

    But it's just the newest scheme, aided by modern technology, to send the wealth and income to the top. And we have been here before. And with both parties supporting it, on behalf of their rich donors, we will literally have to crash and burn in order for the people to get rid of this scheme. For both the politicians, and the special interests, who devised this scheme, want it. They are not representing the best interests or common good of the people. And there are institutions in place that will fight any change, even as they will tell you it is good for you.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol i expect personal attacks and meaingless grammar critiques when a person is losing an argument. I'm typing on the fly while getting other work done and the red-underline feature isn't working for whatever reason. But continue with the personal attacks instead of intelligent debate. It's a good look for you.

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    We can blame men for 99.99999 percent of all the bad things that happened to society before progressive feminism destroyed the Traditional Patrirachy.
     
  8. ChrisL

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    Oh, come on! Your spelling is just poor. Stop making excuses. Most women are happy to be free. It's not all about you and what you want. If you are insecure and frightened by women, then that is your own problem.
     
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    My spelling is as good as can be expected for a guy not going back to make sure there are no spelling mistakes. It isn't about what I want. It's about what's good for society. I'm not insecure, I'm not frightened by women. I love women and I want them to be happy - even if that means they're working. BUT, I cannot sit by if the condition of a society is getting worse because of our actions. The studies and facts are showing Americans being more depressed than ever before. We are working as slaves for corporations that have a vested interest in pushing feminism because it creates more workers, which in turn means more demand, which means less wages. It's a scam. The problem is globalization. The solution is Nationalism based on Patrirachy.
     
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    I can agree with you on your comments regarding women. Countries where feminism is less prevalent have higher quality women, in my opinion. I prefer foreign women now, and in my experience, you can do no worse than an American woman on average. I know, the women on here are going to get upset and claim that they are perfectly fine--okay, so what? I'm not saying there aren't plenty of awesome American women, it's just that there are more abroad.

    At the end of the day, an American guy can get a higher quality partner abroad than he can here, and the difference in quality is very substantial. For instance, the average American guy will probably not be able to get a solidly attractive woman, and he certainly can't get one who possesses both a good personality and is hot. In a foreign country, he can get both.

    All that being said, you are definitely conflating travel and globalization.
     
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    Society is not worse because of the eradication of your "ancient" views. There are PLENTY of reasons why things are the way they are today, and it probably has more to do with crybaby men.

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    What makes you think that foreigners are more attractive and more intelligent than American women?

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    Exactly. This is a REAL problem and not women gaining freedom and independence.
     
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    Last time I cried was when I watched the Shawshank Redemption - gets me everytime. That doesn't make me a cry baby. Onto topic; you have yet to give me an example of how it's good that depression levels for working women are at all time highs. And why is the correlation between a woman's career choices and her being single so linked ?
     
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    I'm sure there were plenty of women who were depressed before in your 1950s era. Depression has a LOT of different causes, anything from a chemical imbalance to past experiences or situational depressions.

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    I'm sure (actually I KNOW) that some women would prefer to be single and not married. You men really need to step it up.
     
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    Liberals were against globalization before they were for it. They are now only for it because of politics.
     
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    Must be so emasculating for you not being able to keep up with us women! :clapping:
     
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    Not more intelligent, but more attractive, though you are more likely to see hot, competent women in other countries than you do here--I'm not sure why, but I noticed this pattern when I went to Asia. Go to any major university in America, and you will almost never find attractive white women in academia, though you'll find plenty of attractive Asian Phd students.

    There are three things, in my opinion, driving the problem:

    1. Obesity rates. This automatically creates more scarcity for attractive women, which increases the competition substantially. Attractive women in America are in extremely high demand because there are so few available. Simply getting a girl who isn't overweight has now become an accomplishment, where in other countries it means almost nothing.

    2. The problem of feminism has two parts.
    2A. Encourages female breadwinners. Because women are always attracted to men of even higher status, women who now make solid incomes need guys who make even better incomes, which puts yet more competitive pressure on men. Statistically, only so many men will meet this requirement.
    2B. The modern economy favors women over men for many jobs. Females have innately superior organizational skills, plan for the future better, and make fewer mistakes. As a result, they graduate more often and find jobs in clerical/organizational work that favor their skill sets. Because of this and illegal immigration, there are fewer places for men to excel.
    2C. Feminist attitudes. Men are generally attracted to feminine women--nothing will ever change this. Feminism encourages aggression in women, which turns men off, more often than not. Relationships become more difficult to maintain as a result, among other things.

    All of these are general patterns and not meant to say that there aren't many exceptions, but when we are discussing problems at the level of society, it's important to focus on the trends.
     
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    Yes, women who desperately want to get out of an oppressive country will marry any weak loser that takes them out of there.

    If a man can't find a Western woman of good character and intelligence and independence and strength it's because they avoid him.


    You do NOT know every woman "abroad" nor every Western woman so your claims are ridiculous....
     
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    And do you have any proof of these allegations?

    I suppose physical beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are plenty of men who like women with a "little meat on their bones" apparently. Otherwise, Kim Kardashian wouldn't be as popular as she is! Lol. You have said that you "prefer" Asian looking women. Well, some men don't find them attractive at all, so there's that too.

    I don't believe that feminism means the same thing to you as it does to me. To me, it means to be equal in relationships and ability to choose your own path in regards to your own life. No longer are women your maids or moms. And like it or not, this is spreading throughout the world too.

    The only really hot women who are super smart that you are going to get if you are a "subpar" guy from foreign countries are women who want a free ticket to America.
     
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    What do I have to "step up" exactly ? Just because you value individual rights above the national collective (another globalist ploy), doesn't mean I have to. Without the tribe/nation, we have nothing. This idea of to each their own is nonsense and it's how nations fall. It's up to men to create, sustain, and grow the nation. We failed in our duties decades ago, and we're now paying for it.
     
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    Not true, for most men. Men prefer thinner, pretty women. Only fat, ugly, lonely, feminists are pushing fat acceptance. If that's you in the picture, it's obvious why you're not a rabid feminists - it's because you're attractve. Feminism is pandering to the weakest of women. Free yourself from the feminist bondage, embrace you natural instinct and your gender's powers.
     
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    Maybe they're depressed ( they all aren't ) because to get what they have they had to fight hatefilled rhetoric that called them demons who will cause the downfall of civilization.

    Maybe they're depressed because they have to work harder than any man to prove they can do a job that men don't have to do well to keep.


    Maybe it's depressing to constantly have to fight for the right not to be enslaved by weak frightened "men"...
     
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    Yourself, your personality and your ability to relate to women and what they want.

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    Oh geebus. :roll:
     
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    My girlfriend is gorgeous. She looks like what's her face from Gone With the Wind. Yes, I know you're going to assume I'm just some fat, lazy, tool living in his mother's basement, and that's fine. You need to think that because it would bother you to know I'm a good looking guy who has very little problem meeting women who has these views.
     
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    Let us take a closer look at this "foreign females are better" concept.

    https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/08/love_abroad.html

    Excerpt:

    Asking for trouble
    Many Americans who marry foreign wives do end up getting scammed, cheated or abandoned once her visa comes through but theyve usually invited trouble on themselves.

    After years of loneliness they often step right off the plane into a bar in Bangkok and start dating the first girl who approaches them. Or else they choose a woman half their age who fulfills all their fantasies but who doesn't speak English and who sees them only as a walking wallet.

    Finding love abroad is mostly about common sense. For a start, you're unlikely to find the woman of your dreams in a bar with girls doing pole dances in the corner.

    Whether in Colombia, Russia or Thailand, respectable women with serious intentions live normal lives and it takes time to get to know them. You need to be able to speak at least some of the same language and have something in common. And if you expect her to emigrate, you might first want to live for a while in her country to appreciate what kind of culture she comes from.

    And if you get to know her first on an Internet dating site, remember that no one who's honest will ever ask you to send money upfront. Period. And if the first couple of telephone calls go well, jump on a plane and go to meet her — if you discover she has a bad drinking habit and she cant stand your body odor well, at least youll have found out in time.

    Finding love abroad can be thrilling. Hell, its one of the things that keeps me on the road all the time.

    But while the average Vietnamese girl might be half the weight of her American counterpart, she may not be able to get your jokes and a festival like Christmas probably wont mean anything to her. She may cook food you're not used to and hate the weather but hey, at least you probably wont be able to understand what your mother-in-law says.

    And lastly, before you go running overseas to look for love, ask a female friend if there's any way you could make yourself more attractive before you go. Terrible body odor, drinking before noon and an inability to listen are turn-offs to women anywhere you go.
     
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    Foreign women who are more traditional and subservient make better wives and lead to happier marriages.
     

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