Why Globalization Is In Best Interests of Western Men

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  1. ChrisL

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    Ahhh. So here we are with some honesty. You want subservient women. Doesn't matter whether they are truly happy or not, as long as they are obedient. How boring for you.
     
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    lol not like my slave, but willing submissivness to the natural order.
     
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    The natural order is whatever the individual wants it to be.
     
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    Personally, if I was a man, I would much prefer a woman who can carry her own weight if need be. I would admire a woman with the self confidence and intelligence to have a higher education and be able to excel in the job market. Those are POSITIVE qualities. Frankly, that is more attractive than a woman who sits on her butt eating bon bons and waiting anxiously for her husband to come home and tell her about HIS day to alleviate her boredom.

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    Well your spelling and grammar are just terrible. Perhaps you are intimidated by intelligent independent women.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol this is the problem; it's impossible for to know what you'd say/do as a man because you're not. No man enjoys assertive independent women except beta males.
     
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    Plenty of them are happy to have a foreign guy stay there with them as well. This idea that all of them only want a green card a huge myth. Upper class women in foreign countries who have plenty of money are also available. I dated multiple women in China whose parents were VERY wealthy. My buddy for instance, dated a beautiful woman whose father owned a penthouse in the center of a major city in Shandong province.

    Finally, you are just looking at this from the wrong angle. Yes, in economic terms, the males have less value in the eyes of the females here--this is the crux of my argument. It's also why you see so many single women, even attractive ones, who would like to marry, but they don't because they are all chasing the same, very small, pool of guys. Those guys get their rocks off with what are essentially harems of women, while the average guys get nothing. Over time, those females who weren't selected lose their beauty and purchasing power in the dating world, which is why you now see so many women in their late thirties and early forties who are unmarried and miserable. The men who lost the dating game are also less well off. They never had the incentive to be more productive, so they used their time playing around doing very little. Only the men of exceptional talent and/or those who have strong tradition stick with the program and keep fighting. This has serious economic consequences. You have to realize that men, for the most part, are motivated to achieve because they want to acquire a high quality female. Unlike women, who are driven by a need for security, and so will seek to acquire resources regardless, the men will say "(*)(*)(*)(*) it" and screw around if they don't think they can get the women they want. Men simply aren't motivated by unattractive women, generally speaking.

    Before I take the time to provide evidence, I want to see if you acknowledge a few things. I don't want to go find 4 or 5 studies proving my position if I can get you to agree on some basic truths:

    1. Obesity rates in America are higher than in most countries.
    2. Men, more so than women, emphasize looks in women.
    3. Women emphasize character traits and status in men, more so than men value the same.
    4. Women, relative to men, are doing better than they ever have. Competition among men is as tight as its ever been.

    If you acknowledge those four things, then you will find that scarcity is real. We are experiencing it, and the things I mentioned are the consequences. Nevertheless, I can back up my position if you'd like, with plenty of studies.

    No, you can get women who don't care about green cards. In other countries, a woman cannot simply be thin, as she can here. Thus, those women are used to having to compete more for men, at least more than we do. As a result, their standards are not as high as American women, who don't have to compete as much.
     
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    lol you're gotten to : so much hate
     
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    I disagree. A REAL man can handle an intelligent and assertive independent women and enjoy her and enjoy the challenge. It is weak willed, ignorant, and pansy arse men who are the real problem.
     
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    Lol. I can agree with the 4 things you listed. However, the rest of your post is pure bunk. Personal anecdotes don't mean a thing. Women are not attractive simply because they are "thin" either. There are some ugly thin people.
     
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    Those guys are idiots. Of course that happens. It also happens in America.

    Moreover, I do speak Chinese, so these other issues don't come up for me.

    Yes, obviously there are ways to become more competitive to women here, or anywhere. The same principles apply, the difference is in how much effort you put in relative to what you gain. In America, doing everything right will allow you to get a woman who isn't fat. In foreign countries, you can get a lot more than that for the same effort.
     
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    I don't think so. I think it is quite obvious that you are intimidated by women who are more intelligent and productive than you. Lol. What is important to you is to have a woman be your servant.

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    Such as?

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    I think you are looking for a mom, not a woman.
     
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    No, men generally find this unattractive beyond the first few hookups. We like being challenged and it makes us want to conquer, but after that, we do not want to be challenged on a regular basis. I've never met a man who wants to compete with his girlfriend. For a personal example, those mean little, I once dated a girl with a Phd. She was the worst girlfriend I ever had. We argued constantly, and every conversation ultimately ended up being a pissing contest. One day, I finally exploded, told her to (*)(*)(*)(*) off, walked to my car, and never came back. She ended up with a submissive yes-man, not someone respectable.

    The rest of my post follows from those premises. The dating market is an economic market, and the same rules apply.

    The issue is not that thin women are automatically attractive, but they are almost ALWAYS more attractive than fat women. There is nothing worse a woman can do--nothing. I think parents who let their daughters get fat need to be fined for such negligence and abuse.
     
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    Good example of men fighting wars for needless and stupid reasons, that other men men start and in the process, hundreds of millions of men, women and children die, get maimed and suffer for. This is the male legacy for over 8,000 years.
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    Such as what? I'm not sure which statement you are referring to.
     
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    The traditional, patriarchal society created the greatest nation that ever existed. With the social revolution of the late 20th century, some improvements were made in civil rights. We also threw the baby out with the bath water and killed much of what was good in America.

    We are now different and not necessarily better.
     
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    Geez, you guys are just beyond any kind of help. I would suggest that you do go to foreign countries to find your subservient women. :laughing:

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    You said you can get "much more." What is that much more? I'm sorry to tell you this, but women from other countries are also individuals and human beings.

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    The greatest nation for WHOM?
     
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    At the cost of millions of people dead. Great legacy to pass down...death and destruction..
     
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    Most Americans.

    The America of 1945 needed a few corrections. We didn't just do that, we pursued a scorched earth policy and laid waste to all of traditional America.

    We've gone from America's greatest generation to a bunch of spoiled children, separated into various demographic groups, and fighting each other for the claim to be the most aggrieved victim.

    Wonderful.
     
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    I'm saying that it is easier to get what one wants, whatever those things may be. Before you take this the wrong way, consider this:

    Is it better to find the guy you want with relative ease, or is it better for you to have great difficulty doing it? If I told you the man of your dreams was behind the same two paths, but that one of those paths would require significant time and personal cost, while the other would require far less effort, which path would you pick?

    This is all I am saying. There are plenty of great women in America, but they are very scarce and difficult to get. They are easier to get elsewhere. It is irrational to choose the path of difficulty and uncertainty when the other path, which provides the same reward, is just behind the corner, elsewhere.

    See, this is a numbers game. Whatever beneficial traits you are looking for, in a economic sense, there are some places where the price of the good is lower, and some where it is higher.
     
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    Me have both the greatest contributions to society AND the greatest disasters to their name. This is due to the inherent nature of being the agent who makes the decisions (or did historically) AND the inherently more violent nature of men.
     
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    It seems to me that men are intimidated by women who aren't wearing an apron.

    Why are men intimidated by beautiful women?

    Why are men intimidated by successful women?

    Why are men intimidated by smart women?

    Why are men so intimidated by women?

    Could it be past rejections play a HUGE role in misogynistic feelings?
     
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    Expanding on my thoughts, I would say rejection leads to men feeling "emasculated." Therefore, they see a beautiful, smart and successful woman and feel that:

    1. I could never have that woman; I won't even try.
    2. I would feel less "manly" to have that woman in my life because I can't handle it.

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    I think you have just admitted to giving up. Instead of a woman who will challenge you and perhaps make you think about things, you would choose a woman who wouldn't dare to challenge you in any way, so that you can remain "secure" in your masculinity? No woman wants to hear that "chase" isn't worth the reward. Lol.
     
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    You: """Over time, those females who weren't selected lose their beauty and purchasing power in the dating world, which is why you now see so many women in their late thirties and early forties who are unmarried and miserable."""""


    LOL! Where's your proof of that (and wet dreams don't count ;) )

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    Ya, pretty much.......and that blinds them to how pathetic they look with their whining and insulting women
     
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    What are you talking about? Millions dead? Where? Who? Can I get an itemized list?
     
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    I find the term "women who weren't SELECTED" to be rather amusing. As if we are merchandise at the store. This is the problem, SOME men still do not see women as being human beings with goals and dreams of their own. It's all about them. So sad.
     

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