Why Globalization Is In Best Interests of Western Men

I consider a REAL man one who would be proud of his woman for her accomplishments and not feel that her intelligence as a threat to his masculinity. I'm sorry guys, but that just shows that you don't have much security in your own masculinity. Boooring.

 

LOL "Real man" - your definition of a real man is a passive man who enjoys not leading things. Enjoy.

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When you compare the life of your typical housewife in the 1950's with that of women elsewhere in the world at the time, it was indeed the greatest nation for all humans.

 

It has nothing to do with intimidation and everything to do with what makes people happy. Men want women who are attractive. If the number of attractive women is low, then it stands to reason that they will be very hard to get. if men are made happier by having an attractive woman, doesn't it make sense that they would want them? Now, you can say that men just need to step it up, but it won't work because women don't operate that way. Women use a very relativistic method of calculating a male's value. If the average man made 100k a year, absolutely nothing would change because the women would simply look for men who made even more. One study shows that women who make six-figures still prefer men who make even more. Why? Because they like men who are more socially dominant. If the average man looked like, say, Ben Affleck, women would just seek out Brad Pitt in his prime. Because high quality women are scarce, the men will lose out regardless, on average. The proportion of quality of women to men is the crucial factor here. This is why men abroad have more luck with women--they become the scarce commodity, just as quality women here are.

It's interesting to note that in one study performed by a n online dating service, they found that women found 80% of the men to be undesirable. Why? Because they are doing a relativistic assessment and going after the elite males.

Is it fair that the changing roles of women, in some cases for the better and in some cases worse, are leading to these issues? No, it isn't fair at all. I'm simply showing you what is, not what we want it to be. I with everyone could get what they want out of a partner, but the economics of dating don't allow that.

Most of the time, a man knows when they can't get a woman. It has nothing to do with being chicken and everything to do with what is realistic. This doesn't have anything to do with what I'm saying.

It's not about feeling less manly, it's about getting less attracted and becoming annoyed. A person cannot help what they are attracted to. I could be the most macho person alive, and I still wouldn't want an aggressive female partner. I just don't like it. Just as women don't like weak men, men don't like aggressive women. Turning the tables a bit, why can;t you just accept weak men for who they are? Maybe they just aren't dominant and you need to respect that. See how it sounds? You are asking men to change their innate preferences, which is impossible.

 

If they only realized how it makes them look.......and they ignore the fact that the world goes on and women do as they damn please

 

I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent. IQ of 145, master's degree. But the only woman I've ever been in love with is smarter than me. She is amazing. And I don't feel she's a threat to my masculinity.

Your generalizations are foolish.

 

She wasn't addressing men like you , she was addressing the two who think women should be doormats or Western civilization will end

 

I think you are getting the wrong idea. I don't want a slave, and I don't want someone who always agrees with me. I simply don't desire a woman with elevated testosterone levels lol. I never said I don't date American women, I'm just talking about averages here. I've said that it's easier to get better women abroad, in terms of what most men prefer, than it is here. I'm not sure why this is contentious in the slightest.

You are literally asking me if it is better to find someone you love and who loves you than to be single. This is the most profoundly stupid thing I have ever seen on this forum. No, I'm not going to "prove" that people like being in love.

Wow.

Women select men, too. The process is identical. As I've said quite a few times, dating is a market. You like some guys more than others, right?

 

No intimidation here. I prefer someone that knows themselves well which is not all that common. Also, women with a life and interests of her own are both easier to live with and more interesting. Beauty is a definite plus.

 

You're single aren't you ?

 

You have an IQ of 145? And your wife is even smarter? Do you realize how high that is? If you actually averaged out at 145 on an actual IQ test, you would be an extremely intelligent and exceptional person. That would make you smarter than the majority of people in the most difficult fields. If you are basing this on an extrapolation of GRE or LSAT scores, then that is probably not accurate.

I'm not calling you a liar, but that is extremely high.

 

I don't think anyone is against FAIR trade, are they? The Obamas' and Bushs' of the world would argue the free flow of people across all border is part of globalization.

 

I think the US already has enough hot women. I vote NO!

 

You: """in terms of what most men prefer,""

Another unsubstantiated claim, YOU have NO idea what MOST men prefer....

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THIS is what makes him smarter: """ But the only woman I've ever been in love with is smarter than me. She is amazing. And I don't feel she's a threat to my masculinity. """

 

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The late great Louis Armstrong once said; If you had to ask the question, you ain't never gonna know the answer.

 

Ehh...as a guy, I think obesity does make a difference in attractiveness. Yes of course there are ugly thin people, but I've noticed on women who've changed weight radically, that they are more attractive, in the face, at generally lower rates. The fat is all over the body and there are some beautiful women who are buried under blobs of fat. I don't think it's particularly controversial to say that women are more attractive at healthier weights.

 

I didn't say obesity didn't make a difference. I said that you can be thin and unattractive too and that was in response to another poster saying that it only really mattered if a woman is thin.

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A real man is someone who is not threatened by a woman who goes to work and has a brain.

 

Where on earth do you live where people are (women OR men) are making 6 figure salaries? I'd like to move there! The average salary in the US is WAAAAY lower than that. It's like 50,000.

 

I was illustrating a point about the way women view potential partners.

 

I don't know but most men I hear complain that the woman does not work and sits around doing nothing all day and that they need help paying the bills and would like for her to work. I've never heard a man complain that his wife or SO has a job. Lol. These forums are just silly and so are some of the people who post on them.

 

I don't think so. There were times with my ex when he made more than me and other times where I made more. Never was an issue for either of us.

 

Women are incredible. We can be sensitive nurturing and caring, but at the same time we can be tough and fighters for what we want. I didn't realize that men were such one-faceted creatures. I feel like posting this song now.

[video=youtube;Q8xuUdI1an0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8xuUdI1an0[/video]

 

American women are the best women in the whole world because we have everything going for us.

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For me, it's more about making a connection with someone and having a desire or lust for that person and having things in common with the person. It doesn't matter HOW much money a guy makes if I don't feel a connection to him or if I don't desire him in a physical sense. It's either there or it's not, and I think that depends on our personalities.

 

How would YOU know what a real man is to me? You are wrong, as usual.

Why don't you post some stats on this questionable claim. Why did women make the move to be able to work outside of their homes if they were so "happy?" Lol.

 

Just to be clear, I don't have any problem with homemakers and I think (at least when they have little ones to care for) it can be a very challenging and rewarding activity. I feel a nice sense of accomplishment when I've cleaned my house spotless, taken care of all my laundry, fed my bunny (lol). However, the feeling of accomplishment and achievement I get from working and making my own money is something even better (IMO). I don't have to ask for money to go shopping. I just go. I buy what I want. I am a grown woman; I don't want to ask anyone for money or ask their permission to go shopping, go out with my girls, or anything else.

 

Yes and with most normal folks it never is and never was a problem.