Why is fighting gay marriage such a big issue for many of you?

I really wonder about people who have nothing better to do than get all worked up about gay people getting married. Do you really have nothing better to do? Nothing better to fight for than oppressing others? Is this really at or towards the top of your priorities? Other people getting married - something that will not affect your life in any proven negative way other than your feelings based on your pointless obsession with other people's sexuality? I mean, you could be fighting for so many other causes, but instead, you and your politicians are focusing so much of your time, trying to keep your fellow Americans from having the same rights as you. Millions of dollars and countless hours of time spending fighting to keep fellow Americans from having the same basic rights as you. That money and time could have been spent actually helping people instead of hurting them. You don't see a problem with your priorities? Even if you don't like gay marriage and don't want to see it happen, you really don't have other issues that are more worthwhile focusing on? I just don't get it. What's with the obsession with something that not only will have no negative impact on your life, but would mean giving the same rights to other Americans?

 

I could ask you the same thing. Unless you're gay, it has no impact on your life either. Funny how you guys never want to acknowledge this when playing that card.

 

As a married heterosexual, I have continually noted the absence of any adverse impact upon that demographic as a consequence of the progress.

If emancipation, women's suffrage, and ending gender discrimination in marriage do not adversely impact heterosexual white males personally, their supporting equality is obviously a matter of respect for others and the embrace of a moral and very American ideal.

 

I can only speak as an American.
I see the gay issue, the gun control issue, the health care issue, the abortion issue as nothing more than keeping the slow and stupid from seeing or looking for the real issues of our nation and its challenges.
I say let the people speak, period.
Say 2016 we have an open vote on the general election ballot.
Do you favor gay marriage, yes or no.
Do you favor gun control by way the GOP or the Democrat policy.
Do you favor abortion being legal.
Get these issues out of the way and add or take a way by amendment during the mid term elections.
It would be quite simple.
If like I said about policy, make the two sides come up with a policy and present it to the voting public.

 

No actually you could not ask him the same thing. If you guys would have never got in the way of their equality people would not have to spend their time fighting for it.

It's like punching someone in the face and then claiming they are just as violent as you for defending themselves.

 

It's not about morality, it's about loss of control. For 1500 years the Catholic/Christian churches have been able to define "morality" for everyone and dictate to people who, how, what, when and where they marry and also have sex. The church has been losing control over people since the Constitution and more visibly so in the last 100 years. The hysteria over SSM and homosexuality in general is a scream of hopelessness about losing their last bastion of religious control over peoples lives.

 

So many fallacies here. And notice how you didn't actually refute what I said. You still have yet to prove how this affects you if you're not gay.

 

Cultural insecurities and nothing more.

 

Because it is very funny to see Anglicans or the official Anglican church making comments about the sanctity of marriage .

 

Actually no there are no fallacies in my post.

People like you do not consider the LBGT community to be equal or even natural. The rest of us think your (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bags for it and stand up for their right to the pursuit of happiness and liberty with equal treatment under the law.

Cause and effect.

On a side note the American Christian values rear their ugly head again.

Notice how if it doesn't affect you you shouldn't care that it affects others.

*queue star....*

The more you know.

 

Republicans stand in judgement because they think their mentality and their opinions are all that matter. They stand in judgement while calling everybody else hypocrites. Laughable? I think so.

 

That makes no sense. I'm not sure why it's so incredibly difficult for you to understand the differences here. I fight because I care about others. You fight because.....? Your fight does nothing to save you or anyone from a negative impact. The same cannot be said of my fight. How can you not see that blatant difference? The fact that it doesn't affect me is irrelevant in my case because I'm doing it to help others, not to defend against something that is hurting me specifically . It's such an obvious point, it's hard to explain something that should be self evident to any rational being. It's like explaining why 2+2 doesn't equal 10. I know helping others is an alien concept to you, so I guess that explains why you don't understand why someone would do something without selfish motives.

The incredibly selfish and illogical nature of your argue is astounding. It's also quite interesting that you don't even bother to come up with a single reason why you're fighting gay marriage, but instead, try to use some mind numbing pseudo-hypocrisy angle.

So why don't you stop with the BS "no, YOU" distraction and actually make a valid argument why you care and why it's a priority for you? Or are you not capable of such a task?

 

I didn't realize this until I read Unifer's (what an ironic name) post again: "Unless you're gay, it has no impact on your life either."

He just admitted it has no impact on his life.

 

Actually, that is far from the truth. What we allow our government to do on our behalf impacts us all. Big Gulp anyone? Careful what you wish for.

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So in other words, wipe our asses with the Constitution and let the mob rule.

 

Shouldn't you also have to prove how the obverse effects you? You have been dodging my questions throughout this thread. I asked you how two guys down the street having the opportunity to access a marriage license harms you. You have yet to answer except to tell me you'd like to be "left alone" as if two dudes tying the knot is somehow and assault on you. So fair is fair, let's have it...

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Didn't Jesus say that to the Apostle Jake at the last supper?

 

Which has absolutely zero to do with this topic.

 

You do not have to be gay to stand up for a gay person's rights. If you refuse to defend the rights of others, you do not deserve those rights yourself.

 

Yes it does.

 

Lets say i understand gays being upset when other relationships are linked to theirs, such as polygamy, incest ect. They get very very angry at this, yet dont understand at all why a husband and wife might like to keep the word marriage which has defined their relationships since day dot in the West. Sex with males does not define my relationship, sex with females does not define my wifes. Im all for equality for gays under the law but just not using the word marriage. To me its like changing Christmas to mean Christmas and or birthday. Im 100% behind civil unions for other legal relationships which are viewed equally under the law.

The other issue i have with being seen as exactly the same is an issue of trust with our cultural relativist leftist education system. We see them pushing the boundaries all the time in meddling with children social and sexual views. Its only a matter of time before children are taught its completely normal to swing both ways, it will be bigoted, homophobic not to, adding confusion to minds that already struggle with understanding sexuality. Bookmark it - the leftist will start to apply pressure here, because the fight is never ending.

 

You're gonna have to do a little better than that.

 

Gay marriage isnt about rights for dudes who (*)(*)(*)(*) each others asses or women who get down with the scissors.

It is about attacking Christian institutions and traditions/principles.

Most queers dont even want to get married.

 

Does that mean muslims getting married is an attack on christianity also? They're just getting married, and people marry for a variety of different religious and personal reasons. What does that have to do with you, and why are you using your Christianity to attack them?

 

Government marriage has nothing to do with religion. And, irrelevant as it is, I should point out that Christianity does not own marriage. So I think your argument needs considerable improvement.

 

Do you have an argument that is not based on your emotions?

So you think that by keeping the current legal definition of marriage as it exists in most states will help to encourage the kind of traditional values you prefer?