Zimms "Don't pass the smell test" #1...the bloody head.

Zimmerman claims TM hit hit and he went down on his back where T mounted him and started hitting and slamming his head into the concrete. He also states TM repeatedly put his hands over his nose and mouth to keep him from shouting or breathing. He then claims during the head pounding he tried to "shimmy" away off the concrete and onto the grass. This is somewhat confirmed by W6 whose diagram first shows the two E-W on the grass and then later N-S on the sidewalk. Z claims he was able to rip T's hands off his mouth that allowed him to continue yelling for help. In their position, putting ones hands over anothers nose and mouth to keep them from shouting requires a fair amount of downward pressure, meaning Z's head was consistently in contact with the concrete and/or grass.

This photo was taken literally moments after TM got shot and Z got off the body.



So, with all that slamming into the concrete, shimmying, moving, hands pressed against Z's mouth and nose that went on for an estimated 40-60 seconds...wait for it....


Where is the blood smearing one might expect from all that contact with the ground and or grass? All I see is a little diffusion of the blood one might expect from the light drizzle reported by the witnesses.

WHERE IS THE BLOOD SMEARING?

 

Go out there and investigate. When you're done report the findings to the prosecution so they can use it in the trial..Oh wait, the trial is over.....

 

Well, what do YOU think happened to all the blood smearing that MUST be there if it went down as Z claims?

 

Correct!

You'd think blood would be on the concrete, on Trayvon's hands, on both their clothes...NOTHING. that's because the Police cruiser was wiped down after he banged his head in there. Probably explained himself on the way to the pokey and the Cop said "Man you better bang your head on something back there to show you had a struggle or you're going to prison"...

and Ironically the Cops that did all the shoddy work got fired...wonder why? Cover up?

 

I don't know what that bozo wrote to start the thread since he is in the bozo bin - but I totally agree with you. It's like when the cop says "move on - nothing to see here". Zimmerman and his attorney spent time and money on a 2 year defense. Racist retards like Sharpton, Jackson, and Farrakhan poked and prodded as a team of prosecution lawyers and the Governor spent 2 years of time and taxpayer money on the offense. Even a judge who was having her strings pulled by Obama and Holder tried to sway the outcome. In the end the guy walked. So you know what - it's f*cking over and done with. It's time for us to move on. Some new tidbit of news will no doubt come across the AP wire in the next day or two for us to argue about. At this point we are beating a dead horse.

 

Was the grass tested for blood spots?

 

So what you're saying is you can't explain the lack of blood smearing on Z's head either.

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I don't believe the grass or the sidewalks were tested. Don't know why, maybe due to the rain?

 

Although I agree with some of this, it still doesn't answer the OP's question. dance around issues much? add me on your ignore I don't care. I would actually prefer it.as I have no time for jaded people that can't see the facts and like to deflect.

 

I find it so telling that the most racists among the Zimmemran supporter do not even bother to deny the incongruity of the verdict, or the fact that there was NO REASON for Zimmemran to resort to deadly force, but that they are just happy to gloat about the ******** wannabe vigilante getting away (literally) with murder!

That says it all about the morality of the Zimme,rman crowd!

 

Let's try to keep this discussion about the lack of blood smearing on Z's head.

 

Democrat lynch mobs, that is why.

 

DITTO! .......

 

Nope. just add this to the huge list of shoddy Police work by Sanford's finest. How could the Prosecution even make a case with such poor evidence collection.??

 

Oh, come on Alfalfa. It is obvious that GZ had his head injured that night. I'm sure you have had a head injury before and know that head lacerations DO bleed considerably. Are you saying that GZ did not bleed enough? Common sense would say that the blood had to go somewhere. There were witnesses that place GZ and TM in the location that GZ stated they were in. If it wasn't found on the grass or the sidewalk, logic would say it was washed off by the rain. If it wasn't smeared on the back of his head, maybe the wet grass washed it off, or the rain washed it off.

The other possibility would be that GZ injured himself either BEFORE the confrontation (very unlikely), or AFTER the shot was fire....in the 50 seconds before the police arrived and in front of multiple witnesses.

 

So don't have an explanation for the lack of blood smearing either?

 

Or, that Z injured his head during the struggle down the sidewalk and again when he fell on his back and there was no "head pounding" at all nor any Z trying to suffocate him, which would explain the lack of Z blood or DNA on TM's hands or under his nails.

 

It may have been that the bashing initiated the wounds but they opened fully during the scuffle on the grass and only started bleeding as the altercation wound down.

 

Are you saying you believe the wounds did happen during the one minute head poundings, etc. and decided to wait to bleed until after TM was shot?

Anyway, that was a hell of a lot of blood to occur right before the shot and then maybe 1 minute after.

Also, please notice there are two distinct directions of blood flow, the first indicative of a standing man and the later second of a man who is looking downward. But neither of a man on his back with his head on the ground.

 

It was raining, no?

In other news the injuries are not consistent with somebody having their head slammed into concrete, the way it was demonstrated in court. To sustain a blow such as that would generally cause a massive concussion, bleeding of the brain, and most likely unconsciousness. George was probably making it sound worse than it actually was, not saying he was or wasn't getting his ass handed to him by a teenager, but the injuries look more like somebody who bounced his head off the concrete, like from a blow knocking him on his back, or somebody on him punching him in the head and the head bouncing off the concrete.

 

what blood? that's my point... there was none until AFTER Zimmy got to the pokey...

Shoddy Police work didn't gather ANY at the scene...strange? YOU BET

not even ONE picture was taken AT the scene of Zimmerman.. only AT the Police station...shoddy police work? YOU BET

 

Wounds don't decide things, they don't have agency. Haven't you ever had a wound that initially does not bleed but due to further agitation starts bleeding?

 

It happens....

 

Hey, kid, guess what? THE TRIAL IS OVER AND THE JURY HAS SPOKEN!

Those pix of Z were for public viewing long b/f the trial. Why didn't you investigate it then?

Anyway, you go ahead and apply your detective skills now, altho you're way behind on schedule. It'll give you something to do .........

 

Never. Through out my whole life, if I got cut, it bleeds. Particularly on the head.

 

Why do you think blood from the back of Zimmerman's head would be on Martin when they were facing each other with Martin in the mount position?? Seems silly to me...Plus do you forget it was raining out? Rain is very detrimental to a forensic investigation, things get washed away.