Zimms "Don't pass the smell test" #1...the bloody head.

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  1. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    How long should Zimm have postponed shooting Trayvon? Until Trayvon had killed him?

    Forget what led up to that point. Neither man had broken the law until then, so no harm, no foul.

    Zimm's life was endangered and Trayvon kept endangering it by continuing to bash his head on the cement.

    The law says that you CAN use deadly force to save your own life.

    Zimm did

    Trayvon was too strong. Too good a fighter. He was PREVAILING in his struggle but by winning in that struggle he was sealing his own fate.

    Too bad for Trayvon.
     
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    Yes.. George was calling NEN when he lived at Lake Mary and a couple of other places before he moved to the Retreat.
     
  3. Alfalfa

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    AOK, I'm still good with the 3 year, 4500 figure...heheh.
     
  4. superbadbrutha

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    Have you ever seen anyone's head that has been bashed on concrete?
     
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    Not sure where he first saw TM.. but when he started stalking him was when it became a vigilante justice attempt.
     
  6. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, as a matter of fact.

    [video=youtube;NMQo3YrEniU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMQo3YrEniU&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]

    And now so have you, I'm confident in saying.

    Trayvon was so tough he bashed the boy's head into the sidewalk and broke his nose! Trayvon would have been on the road to being imprisoned his damn self if he'd a killed George.
     
  7. Alfalfa

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    Actually we do, according to Zimm. It was either at the first turn on RVC or the second.

    Depending on what statement you want to believe.
     
  8. Pregnar Kraps

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    To my way of thinking, the ONLY way to successfully challenge the veracity of a witnesses' account when he's the only living witness is with incontrovertible evidence.
     
  9. Alfalfa

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    Yes, incontrovertible evidence he lied.
     
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    Some people are never going to let this going. They will throw out the wierdest conspiracy theories out there or call the jury racist forgetting the Prosecution had NOTHING.
     
  11. Nunya D.

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    Which was never produced.
     
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    I had to chuckle a little on the cooper interview of the juror as every so many of the theories that Alfalfa put forward leading up to this case that he was so sure would be of major importance to the jury were discounted out of hand.

    It must be pissing him off something fierce.
     
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    WRONG. Addressed in the TRIAL, Review the testimony.


    It;s OVER. YOU LOST.

    This thread is just another manifesttion of the Trayvonites' TERMINAL CASE OF SOUR GRAPES.
     
  14. Alfalfa

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    Well, maybe you could point to WHERE it was addressed at trial.

    I provide testimony and links, you provide hot air.

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    Z's lies were a good part of the states closing arguments. The jury ignored it.
     
  15. Nunya D.

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    Or they did not believe that he lied. Seeing as how the police believed his version and he passed a Voice-Stress analysis, I could see why they thought GZ was being truthful.
     
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    Dumbass Juror B37 confirmed she thought Z had lied.
     
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    about what?
     
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    NOT GUILTY
     
  19. Alfalfa

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    Go back and watch the Cooper video.
     
  20. Nunya D.

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    Don't have the time or desire to watch Cooper. All I need is a simple sentence from you on what she felt GZ lied about.
     
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    The jury has spoken. They said not guilty. Which is not the same as innocent.

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    =/= innocent.
     
  22. Nunya D.

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    No, exaggeration is fudging. Basically, telling the truth, but embellishing a bit.

    Merriam-Webster doesn't even list "lie" as a synonym for exaggeration. It isn't even a related word.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerate
     
  23. sonofthunder

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    Like in the GZ case, the prosecution failed to disprove reasonable doubt. What you or I think it should or should not have been is irrelevant.
     
  24. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Look at it like this. TM could have been using deadly force to save his own life. However, he got shot to death before he could save his life.

    The whole event of how Z stalked TM, grabbed his clothes, shot him, and then whacked himself about his head and face could be shown on an IMAX screen and Z defenders would still claim that he's as innocent as pristine snow.
     
  25. Alfalfa

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    Well B37 can call them exaggerations, I call them lies. And there are lot of them.

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    What I think is entirely relevant to whether I think GZ is a liar and therefore not inclined to believe his self defense fairy tale.
     

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