Would you have answered the prayers of the 6 million Holocaust Jews?

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if I had the powers of a God, I would of stopped the horror that happened to the Jews
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Jesus had no powers to do that.

    John 14:10 ...the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

    But even so, why would Jesus counteract His father's "strange work, strange act, his work," [Isaiah 28:21].
     
  3. Incorporeal

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    But you don't have those powers, so as a mortal human, what would you do?
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You are denying the Reality of what always happens.

    No peoples who have ever lost their homeland have ever survived long.
    The Jews are an exception, in that they survived for 2000 years, and then, amazingly, returned to Israel again.
     
  5. FreedomSeeker

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    You are very moral - more moral than Jesus.
    Wait, don't tell me, let me use the training I received when I worked for The Psychic Friends Network (I still don't understand why they didn't see bankruptcy coming) - you...are....wait it's coming to me...you....are....NOT A CHRISTIAN! Did I get that right?

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    Sounds like we have a PRO-Holocaust voice among us.

    PS good job, Jesus! /sarc off

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    Try to reform the bible, remove the hatred in the Bible towards the non-believer??
     
  6. Incorporeal

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    WOW! You have such a vast power of intuition. Of course you realize that is not part of the scientific method don't you?
     
  7. FreedomSeeker

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    If he does not have those powers, then of course he also does not have the power to magically let you survive your own death, then. Time to leave Jesus, I guess.
     
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    The Bible taught the Jews they would go to heaven of they were Christianized, and they did not obey him.
     
  9. FreedomSeeker

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    Hey, if Christians can believe in a talking snake and dragons, then *I* can surely believe that my magic psychic powers are finely tuned. :-D

    PS My psychic powers do not, uh, apparently as I found out last week, extend to picking stocks, or ponies.

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    Why should they, he gave no physical evidence of his magic, no court-room level of evidence for his magic, and he was immoral....so why should they?
     
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    Then you are not being very successful in your efforts as a human. I mean after all, I am willing to bet that you hold a high level of hatred toward God... my willingness to make a bet is based on your adamant and extreme level of mockery you perform toward the subject of God. So start by removing the hatred from your own being before you attempt to remove it from others, if in fact others possess such a level of hatred as you seemingly have.
     
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    Right.
    Jesus was dead.


    He was resurrected by Moses and Elijah.
    They had come to the Tomb after they were joined together at the transfiguration.

    John 20:12 And seeth two angels in white, (Moses and Elijah), sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
     
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    Ahhh... so now your Psychic powers are a mere belief that you hold. OK... that makes all the difference in the world.
     
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    And the Bible says that god did not have the power to stop "chariots of iron".....what a weak and pathetic god/son team we have here. I bet Zeus could kick their arses! And with the mega-box-office THOR is pulling down these days we pretty much KNOW HE could!
     
  14. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    without time travel, I guess nothing....

    what would Christians in Germany at the time do?

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    My psychic powers also tell me....wait.....wait.....yes.....yes it's coming to me....A MUSLIM WILL BLOW HIMSELF UP TODAY TO GET 72 VIRGINS. I know I'm really going out on a limb here....buuuuuut I'm thinking this one's gunna come true, I have faith, yes faith in religion's ability to create extremists.
     
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    Christ did everything which Elijah had done all over again.
    They had seen Elijah 800 years before.
    Still, in 32 AD, they acted deaf and blind to what Christ had said.

    Now Christ gave them a second chance.
    But they rejected him, again.


    Christ and Elijah both did the same miracles, which was traditional supposed to identify Elijah when would come back.

    Both Elijah and Jesus raised the dead

    Both Elijah and Jesus were immortal.

    Both Elijah and Jesus disappeared from the foot of a mountain.

    Both Elijah and Jesus ascended into Heaven before witnesses.

    Both Elijah and Jesus troubled Israel.

    Both Elijah and Jesus were hunted down by the Jewish authorities.

    Both Elijah and Jesus hid 3 days, Elijah in a cave, Jesus in the temple.

    Both Elijah and Jesus pondered in the wilderness 40 days.

    Both Elijah and Jesus walked on the water.

    Both wrote letters to people on Earth after they had ascended.

    Both appointed a successor, Elisha by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ.

    Both were hunted by the Jewish authorities.

    Both gave a successor the power to raise the dead.

    Both gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other.

    Both asked that the this "cup" be taken from them.

    Both are said to have had miraculous births.

    Both multiplied the meal for many people they feed in the crowd.

    Both destroyed the pagan worshippers and priests, one Baal, the other, the Pantheon of Rome.

    Both were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.

    Both Elijah and Jesus raised the dead.
     
  17. FreedomSeeker

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    I love science and humanity, and I do, well, uh, I guess, "hate" it when the latter abandons the former in favor of talking snakes.
    I do hate less than Jesus of course, because I answer "yes" to the question in the OP, and not one, not ONE, of Jesus' followers on this thread has been willing to muster the courage to answer "yes". Why do they hate Jews so much to not be able to answer "yes"?
     
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    You clearly don't understand the concept of "court-room level of evidence", as Krishna has about the same level of "evidence", and bigfoot, and Nessie, and Thor, and Zeus, and Wotan, and Mithras, and etc., etc., etc.

    This is not proof, this is hearsay/legend.
     
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    Zeus may do it,...
    But god is Reality.

    The Reality was that the Jews had no iron chariots.
    That was also The Truth.
    These two factors are identical for us, and they describe the Trinity.

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    To Jews, the scriptures are true, though.
     
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    Now THIS one I do believe, since I myself used to receive letters from a "god" (or at least a saint) - yes I'll admit it here for the first time.
    St. "Nicholas" was his name.
     
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    Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark!
     
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    Parade your vast list of witnesses before us, and we'll question them ASAP, and get to the real truth of the matter. :)
     
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    Ms. DORA LEFKOWITZ: "I cannot see a God who will allow a little baby to be killed for no reason at all. And I really lost my belief then, right there and then. I had one sister and two brothers. I was the oldest and the only survivor of my family. Why? What did they do so terrible that they had to perish? I think if God is so great and so powerful, he could have struck Hitler down before he killed so many Jews. ThatÂ’s my feeling."
     
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    The language in the caption under the photo opens the door to a variety of questions that are deserving of their own thread. First noticed is the clause "the spirit of unity and cooperation" NOT 'the spirit of God', nor the "Holy Spirit". Unity and cooperation with or of what ? The national government. Secondly noticed is the presence of the Pope. Is the Pope in this picture representing Christianity or he merely there in an attempt to restore peace in the region? As for Hitlers statement regarding Christianity being the foundation of that national government... hmmmmph ... I view that merely as a cliche' in his attempt to appease the Pope and fool the world. His later actions validate my views on that subject.
     
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    Too late to make such a prediction, when a bombing has already occurred today earlier than your posting of the prediction.
     

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