Would you have answered the prayers of the 6 million Holocaust Jews?

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    It wasn't that Jesus was pissed.
    It was all prophesied back in Gen 22:13.
    First, Abraham was going to sacrifice his son, but at the last moment, God said "No, do it to the adults."

    Gen. 22:13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him, (an uncastrated male sheep), a ram (also, figuratively, [ayil: the political chiefs]; symbolic of the European Jewish rabbi), caught in a thicket (of the Nazi persecution to come), by his horns, (or, his power: [symbolic Dictionary]):
    and Abraham, (in analogy to God), went and took, (in absence of a lamb of God to come), the ram, (i.e.; the Jewish leadership in Europe of the 20th century to come), and offered him, (as a Burnt Offering, the sin offering, i.e.; the Jewish people, themselves: [Exodus 4:22 Then you shall say to Pharaoh, "Thus says the Lord, Israel is My son, my first born."]), up (in holocaust) for a burnt offering (in the crematoriums to come, the Burnt Offering of Israel, the chosen son of God:) in the stead of (Isaac? Ishmael?), his (only) son, (in analogy, as was Christ offered for their salvation).
     
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    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Sure, I would. I'd cure cancer, multiple sclerosis and lots of other wonderful things. And if I had a billion dollars ....



    So we see that you have the capacity to change. Don't assume you can't change again.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So not everything has a down side, even damnation.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Yes to the first part,... but damnation of what?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so Christians went nuts and destroyed the place? kinda like what we see with the religious fanatics in government now, trying to shut down the government if they do not get their way?

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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Jesus Christ don't need any magic powers to answer prayers.
    Victims of WWII not just the Jews their prayers even those who did not pray or do not believe in God were answered with the defeat of Hitler and Nazism.
    Christians and all decent people are now more vigilant against all sorts of extremism.
     
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    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    And I have faith in you, that you also have the ability to change, to grow to embrace a belief system that isn't so outdated that it thinks the earth is 6000 years old. You can do it.
     
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    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    That's a poorly disguised flame. Not appreciated.
     
  9. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    I wish...
    Christians sit inside their churches often only on Holidays, and a few Sundays.
    They are quite in spite many people complain about Abortion, pre-marital sex, and Gays getting married.
    But they do not work the way feminists and Gays do, gathering in groups and getting political, and amassing in large numbers, and demonstrating that they have voting power.

    No.
    Christians forgot how to mass.

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    So you do believe in prayers, and that they work...
     
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    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Well, if a belief system thinks that the earth is about 6000 years old, can we at least agree that it would be best to grow beyond that unscientific belief system? Science has shown us that that course of action would be a wise one, I believe.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You keep trouncing on the old fundamentalists.
    They still argue that their Book Report on the Bible was right, even though there were not six 24 hour days during the creation process.

    There were very long eras of time.
    Six of them exist, each a layer of separated soil marked by comet/meteor hits that killed everything, and life then started over.
    It called the Geological Clock.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    This what happened:


    Rev. 6:12 And I beheld, (in the days of Emperor Theodocius, who established the Holy Roman, Catholic, Apostolic Church, on 27 February 380), when he, (the Lamb of the tribe of Judah, the off-spring of the root of David: [Rev 5:5]), had opened the sixth seal of (scripture), and, lo, there was a great earthquake (of religious social change); and the Sun (signs of Astrology) became (as) black as (the) sackcloth of (the hood covering a nun's) hair, and the moon became as blood (of Christ, to determine the very day of the Easter and Passover).

    Rev. 6:13 And the stars' (twelve constellations of Sun Signs) of heaven fell (from popular grace) unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, (ruined), when she is (destructively) shaken of a mighty wind.

    Rev. 6:14 And (Astrology) departed (from popular practice) as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain (i.e.; Pagan religion) and island (i.e.; secret society) were moved out of their places (in the pagan society of all the Roman World).

    Rev. 6:15 And (1) the kings of the earth, (POLITICIANS), and (2) the great men, (STATESMEN), and (3) the rich men, (ECONOMIC BARONS), and (4) the chief captains, (PRIESTHOODS), and (5) the mighty men, (MILITARY LEADERS), and (6) every bondman, (CRAFTSMAN), and (7) every free man, (PEASANT), hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the (institutionalized) mountains (of that pagan society);

    Rev. 6:16 And said to the mountains (of the previous decadent and hedonistic social institutions) and rocks (of that wide-open, sexually promiscuous culture), Fall on us, (help!), and hide us from the face (of Papal judgment) of[/B[ (Universal Catholicism), him that sitteth on the throne (of Christian Rome) and from the (words of) wrath of the Lamb, (the Word of the New Testament):

    Rev. 6:17 For the great day of his wrath, (the one thousand year reign predicted), is come; and who, (what other God) shall be able to stand (during these Dark Ages).
     

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