Poll: 47% of Americans blame Trump for government shutdown

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  1. VoxEphemeral

    VoxEphemeral Banned

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    So what?

    The gubmint still stays shut down until he gets his 5 Billion or a good compromise.

    LOL!

    That's a fact, Jack!!
     
  2. MrTLegal

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    No, it is not false or misleading.

    And I did do research before posting the article - even though that is not some requirement. I just demanded that you back up your bullshit posts and you never did.
     
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    Is it? He is going to get 5 billion?

    When he has already dropped his demand?

    Is that a fact, really dude?
     
  4. VoxEphemeral

    VoxEphemeral Banned

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    What did I say?

    Can you read?

    I said he will get his 5 Billion or a good compromise.

    Pay attention and learn.
     
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    As always, they share blame. But, of course, MAGA bears the majority of the blame for his openly stated willingness to hold the federal government hostage so that he doesn't have to look foolish..

    Hey, MAGA. It's too late. You've got a solid three years of making a complete ass of yourself (that's your term so far, plus campaign). You're not doing yourself any favors by doubling down on the worst promise/threat of your campaign now.
     
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    And the Democrats will make sure the money goes to something more meaningful and cost-effective than a fence or wall.
     
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  7. VoxEphemeral

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    The Democrats don't have that power.

    All they can do is approve the money or their beloved gubmint stays shut down.

    They're already nervous because they know Trump would LOVE to keep it shut all summer.
     
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    (Scratches head) You mean Obama wasn't president when his J.V. took off with a roar and tore the Middle East a new rump hole? Was Obama president when some new guy in the Oval Office a couple of years ago casually told his generals to 'take care' of the ISIS nuisance and the generals EASILY accomplished that task? Wow, what a mystery!
     
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    True that; it's limited to only two presidential terms.
     
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    Your hero traitor Bush was warned that by killing off Saddam who was al-Qaeda's biggest enemy, it would strengthen jihadist terrorists and increase their terrorism. Of course, he was well aware of that truth and croaked him off for that purpose. Right wing America haters supported him and still do since they will not rest until the USA is destroyed and they can then boast "mission accomplished".
     
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    Oh, I have already learned how this works.

    You and the rest of the Trumpettes will think that trump getting enough money to buy a personal beaded curtain is a "good compromise" simply because trump also pushed on you and called it a good compromise.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You appear desperate to keep allowing in the illegals. Do you truly need them as voters?
     
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    Trump lost by several million legal votes in 2016 and Republicans lost by several million legal votes in 2018.

    You appear desperate to keep your election losses to several million.
     
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    People living paycheck to paycheck are struggling and perhaps out of money now, cetain services are not being provided and tourists and locals eager to get into the
    Smithsonian museums are having their vacations ruined. What is anyone getting out of it?

    This wall is not a panacea for border security but there are other crucial problems that could be ameliorated by five billion dollars. Send money to Flint to make sure that our citizens who have been slowly and insidiously poisoned have clean water. Ensure that crumbling infrastructure is repaired and sturdy. People died when levies collapsed during hurricane Katrina. There are myriad better uses for the money.
     
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    Pass, thanks.
     
  16. GraspingforPeace

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    LMAO. It was literally within a year. Our stupid President had control over all three branches of government, and instead of doing anything to accomplish his main campaign promise, he went along with the typical cut taxes/spend more mentality of the neo-cons and is now throwing a temper tantrum while he has a weaker negotiating hand. No wonder this guy went bankrupt several times, he's an absolute idiot.
     
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    The same people who think Trump is going to make it to 2020 are the same dolts who thought the House also was going to be swept in 2018.
     
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    That's ancient history and not relevant today.

    Our stupid president did not control the Senate. If he controlled the Senate his Supreme Court appointments would have gone through without problems.........you DO remember Kavanaugh, right?
     
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    Oh yeah, so you're also dictating what time periods are relevant or not? Get outta here; no wonder you appreciate Donald's negotiating tactics, acting in good faith seems to be something you don't give a damn about.

    Also, maybe if your side's one move wasn't acting like a child and demanding the other side acquiesce, you guys would understand the idea behind political capital.
     
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    Bonespurs is a terrible negotiator. He doesn't bother to learn the underlying issues, and therefore doesn't grasp what might give him some leverage.

    Saying "no" repeatedly on the basis of untrue and nonsensical "facts" is a poor substitute for being a good negotiator,
     
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    Yeah, I'm not really sure why the GOP thought that this whole watch Fox News/tweet all day charade would work once the Dems took the House.
     
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    Then why are you having trouble providing a link with the actual survey questions? This is your thread and your claim to back up.
     
  23. MrTLegal

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    No, it is not.

    Back up your horse **** allegations, stop making them, or get ignored.
     
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    I already did and you could not even provide a link to the actual survey. It amazes me how many are willing to consume these articles without question.

    I did enjoy your meltdowns. All your replies have all those little stars exposing your anger. If you ignore everyone who challenges you, you can claim victory by default. I think that gets you a participation trophy. Congrats!
     
  25. MrTLegal

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    You have yet to back up anything beyond your baseless assumptions. Congratulations on making an ass of yourself. Welcome to ignore.
     

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