Don't tell us it's Guns

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would call stagnation a decline
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    If you look at the map below you will see where these increases are mostly contained in — poor with low access to healthcare and education
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    I really don’t think we would have to implement many gun laws if we would address poverty, healthcare and education in this nation. The crime increase issues would likely solve themselves.

    Mass shootings might still persist though just because of the ease of access.
     
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    Then why are they still illegal?
     
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    what laws are going to prevent someone planning mass murder from getting a firearm
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    you mean Oxy sold and bought without prescriptions? some of that stuff has no legitimate purpose.
     
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  5. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I've noticed that too. Let's not beat around the bush. They don't really care about less crime. We know what they want.
    Help me finish the seven letter word. It starts with a C and ends with an L
     
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    Irrelevant, your argument against gun bans is that like drug bans they don't work, so why are there still drug bans?
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cuz drugs are bad, mkay?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here’s what I think. They don’t really want gun control because they know it’s impossible. What they want is a rallying point for left wing extremists that will never go away, just like their claims of everything is racist will never go away.
     
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    Oh, can you give a few examples
    Assuming it's left behind at the scene of a crime that might be useful. Otherwise, BFD.
    I'm all for safety training, but my point was that it wouldn't reduce gun murders.
     
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    are you unable to understand that guns have lots of legitimate uses-such as the government issuing them to tons of civilian employees? I really cannot fathom any legitimate uses of crack
     
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    well gun banners' schemes are all about depriving honest people from getting guns and pretending it will stop people who already plan on committing numerous counts of mass murder
     
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    Too bad laws can’t have exceptions. Oh wait!

    So many illegal drugs have legit uses. My girlfriend lives with chronic pain and uses gummies to cope with that. But she’s moving to my state soon where the GOP turds control.
     
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    Irrelevant to the argument.
     
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    The issue isn’t guns but rather the extreme view that has no relationship to our history about guns.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Really?
    Drugs just wake up in the morning and start doing bad things?

    Or are they like guns and incentivize bad behavior?

    Oh you were being sarcastic :roflol:
     
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    And legalization would give plenty of drugs legitimate uses.
     
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    Yeah, but then the left might not be able to take away our guns which is the whole purpose of the 2nd amendment attacks.
     
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    Because there is no benefit to society to make them legal?

    They will still kill themselves with ODs, possible increase to that when nubes try something new. People who don't have the money to purchase them legally, will still commit crimes to obtain them or the money to purchase them.

    The only 'winner' is the taxing authority.
     
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    The reason the government wants our guns is because they want to do something that would cause us to use them.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    I guess you dont see having a secure border, less ODs and liberty as a benefit to society.
     
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    what are legitimate uses of crack?
     
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    most uses of firearms are not harmful to innocent people

    the use of crack is deleterious to the user and often those around him or her
     
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    It has benefits to people with ADHD.

    Thats comical.
    You dont find people shoving crack into other peoples lungs.
    Firearms do inspire people to kill.
     
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    Same as any other stimulant, but only in the proper dose. Even caffeine is often abused.

    Got to have a cup o' the ol' black devil to get ready for a hell of a day. Got to chew your coca to work the fields. A bit of kaht to keep the motivation up. Same class of drugs as crack. Same social uses but a greater potential for greater severity of abuse.

    A drug is a drug but a dope fiend is a dope fiend.
     
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