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Growing dictatorship in Ukraine...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Starcastle, Mar 21, 2022.

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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    The leader of the Ukraine has just outlawed all opposition parties basically making Zelenskyy dictator for life. Something democrats and some republicans wish they could do here. We just need another crisis.

    This is the heroic bastion of liberty and democracy according to the neocon morons. The "flourishing democracy" as Jack Keane once called them.

    https://jonathanturley.org/2022/03/...on-parties-in-ukraine-in-blow-to-free-speech/

     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    You folks ready for this? Remember David Axelrod's quote never let a crisis go to waste?

    Zelenskyy claimed all opposition political parties to have "Russian ties'.

    https://news.yahoo.com/zelesnkyy-su...ion-parties-175304682.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

    What does that sound like? Democrats and the MSM saying that any criticism of the senile moron in the Whitehouse or his crackhead son is Russian misinformation?

    Zelenskyy is a quick learner. He studied Biden and Brian Stelter.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    If Russia leaves and this isn’t changed I’ll worry. Under foreign occupation who want to install a puppet regime, I think it’s the smart choice.
     
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    So much misinformation... so much propaganda...
     
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    Really? I look at it like WW2 when we helped Stalin fight Hitler. We wanted Russia to hold out and kill the max number of Germans but nobody would be stupid enough to call the Soviets a bastion of freedom and democracy.

    So Bush should have ended all opposition parties and all opposition speech for the war on Terra?
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    What misinformation? I will not be holding my breath for an answer.
     
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    "Misinformation" is an ideological term. It's the equivalent of "sin", and about as meaningful.
     
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    So you'd be cool with say .. Trump, doing this in an emergency?
     
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    Hard to say.. its all bogus...Truth will probably take decades to shake out.
     
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    Trump was orange and bad!!!!!
     
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    It is anything that he disagrees with.
     
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    They're always totally okay with young hip politicians going rogue. EG Justin Turdo.

    We're not talking about sophisticated thinkers, after all.
     
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    I guess I missed us being occupied under Bush. When was that?
     
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    If we were occupied by a foreign host who wanted to install a friendly govt? Yah.
     
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    Not so. Biden says there is no problem with new drilling since there 9,000 approve land leases. What he DOESN"T say is that all 'drilling permits" have stopped being approved. This is serious "misinformation".
     
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    That term is in heavy rotation on MSM. It's their newest narrative control gizmo, and they love it.

    Their other new gizmo is 'fact checkers'. A second level of control, which properly belongs in the freaking dark ages.
     
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    Why don't I believe you?
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Ok so eliminate any reason we should want to support these people then. We are only supporting them with billions in military aid.
     
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    Furthermore, the banks aren't financing new drilling. COVID hammered petroleum. They lost so much capital and so many workers. They can't turn it back on without the banks, but the banks and ESG are killing it.
     
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    I'll be sure to tell that to all the folks that are drilling new wells on private lands here... in Texas.
     
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    Texas is an exception in most things...
     
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    Thank God!
     
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    We should support those who are invading their neighbors at least.
     
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    your argument would make sense if and only if Russian backed parties were the ONLY opposition parties in Ukraine. But they are not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Ukraine#Banned_parties
     
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    What is your point? He banned all opposition parties including the number 2 party.

    Saying that anybody who opposes you is pro Russian is going on here. It is the dumbest thing and a good reason to put posters on ignore.
     
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