Hamas feeds Gaza's poor during Ramadan.

Its unfortunate that Abu does that periodically.

Iftar is the meal that breaks the fast... Muhammed taught that you couldn't be a good Muslim if you went to bed with a full stomach while your neighbor was hungry.

That would likely resonate with the Catholic charities that feed the hungry.

In fact, I saw a broadcast Sunday morning on the weekly PBS religion and ethics show.. Some Mosque here in the US is serving Iftar to all comers whether they are Muslim or not.

 

Did you miss his take on Copts? I'd say that was pretty anti Christian.

 

It was meant to be. Stealing from the Palestinians and giving it to supporting zionists is perhaps generous to the zionist settlers but obviously dirty.

But so is taking aid donated by others and relabeling it as aid from oneself.

The US has given something like $120 million in total over an extended period of time. Still, whatever the amount, I imagine the population of Gaza is under the general impression the US has given nothing at all, nor have they gotten anything substantial from non-Muslims, and that only Hamas really provides for them.

I don't know that for a fact. I'd love to find out otherwise, but that appears to be the grim reality of the disinformation they're fed from the information you've provided in this thread. Before your post I was under the impression aid was handed out chiefly by NGOs within Gaza instead of it being taken and redistributed by Hamas.

You get to billions from adding together all aid worldwide.

 

Again, your own link quotes just a few million in aid for victims of various brutal Zionist onslaughts. The US actually paid more than that to Fatah in its attempt to overthrow the elected Palestinian government and to foment civil war. Is that the ' billions ' you were referring to ?

 

Hmmmmm

Ah wiki, looks like someone bothered to compile a bunch of countries donations after the latest war, which, while only a smaller sliver of time, already amounts to billions. It looks like this article is well referenced so you can check up on all the sources of info if you'd care to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008–2009_Gaza_Strip_aid

Also while supporting Fatah is the sort of thing the US is certainly allowed to do if we wish, poking around the net it looks like plans for training a Fatah force didn't come through. However in any case that's still a red herring to the point of this thread, which was about Hamas "generosity", which appears suspiciously to be an act of relabelling air from a host of other nations.

 

Supporting the fomentation of civil war and bloody coup is not something to be proud of and I challenge your claim to its legality.

 

First of all, you haven't even established that we did throw the cash at Fatah. Google searching it, it looked like that was a plan we were considering, but wound up not bothering with in the end.

But beyond that, there isn't any reason for the US not to throw some support at Fatah if we felt like it. Heck, if we had, and there had been a coup in Gaza, the net result would probably have been less bloodshed than what Hamas has brought upon Gaza.

In any case that's off the topic of the thread. You keep trotting out this red herring. Which makes me thing that, yes, the aid to Gaza from the US and Western nations is being relabled and distributed by Hamas. Otherwise you'd address that point.

Though also on that note, Hamas is the government.

Are the western governements then generous with our welfare, food stamps and the like? Is that government function generosity? I suppose I could see something of an argument that it is.

However with our all too often plump poor the US seems to be doing a better job of it in the food department.

 

Nonsense. It's open fact that the US provided 59 million dollars for Abbas's presidential guard.

 

Since you keep ignoring the actual issue. Is that your way of saying "Yes, they're just redistributing aid, lets move on to another subject" ?

Oh, I suppose it could be. At one point we were thinking about putting closer to a billion into upgrading their fighting capabilities. I thought you were talking about something like that since you seemed to be indicating that the amount sent to Fatah was much more than what was sent to Gaza.

Poking around, I've found some more comprehensive numbers on US aid to Palestinians. And it is in the billions from the US alone (though that's since 1994).

http://www.usaid.gov/wbg/aboutUs.html

Again, I question how much the average Palestinian is made aware of things like that.

But I suppose what Palestinas know would be speculation. What I wonder is what YOU think about that Moon. Is that not generous?

 

The ' average Palestinian ' is aware that USAID goes to promoting US State Department foreign policy, bolstering counter-insurgency and police training, fostering collaboration with Israel and improving Israel's security.

I think the term is ' strings ', and plenty of them.

 

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*sigh* I suppose I'd never be able to convince you that anything from the US isn't poisoned and/or coated with radioactive waste.

However that link has a lot of different nations on it that are giving to Hamas. I'm suspecting they relable round about all of it that they can, which is likely quite a lot.

What are your feelings on that?

Also they are a government. Well, sort of anyway. Is the US generous for their food stamps?

In any case, I'll still admit that Hamas could be worse. And for all I know they'd be a good government for people that have the exact same ethnicity and beliefs that they do. Their problem is seeming to have no problems being absolutely horrible to anybody else. Which is why I imagine they'll be brining much war and grief onto their people for a long time into the future, even after they have their own nation.

 

Name them, please.

 

Elenor of Aqitaine the trashy Christian queen failed to lure him into her bed which she shared with plenty when she was in Antioch with Loius her husband.

Read some history.

 

According to recent develpments with Israel it became clear just what does Hamas feed the poor Gaza's ppl with:

 

That's interesting.
Would you have some evidence to back it up?