Hamas feeds Gaza's poor during Ramadan.

For you EZRA

a little history lesson


Salahedin is a prominent figure in Kurdish, Arab, and Muslim culture. Salahedin was a strict adherent of Sunni Islam. His chivalrous behavior was noted by Christian chroniclers, especially in the accounts of the Siege of Kerak, and despite being the nemesis of the Crusaders, he won the respect of many of them, including Richard the Lionheart; rather than becoming a hated figure in Europe, he became a celebrated example of the principles of chivalry

 

Im still waiting for you to give link about a St. Bartholomew slaughtering people.

And I already listed some known atrocities in history.

But for (*)(*)(*)(*)s and giggles, i can name some modern day massacres done by Muslims.

Like.. the attack in Mumbai? What about 9/11?

Remember, I never made the claim that Christians never made any mistakes. It is you who thinks Muslims are spotless lambs

 

For you ABU.

Salahedin was a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)

 

Saladin was a Sunni Kurd from Tikrit..

He characterized all that is fair and noble in Islam..

 

No Obama gave the HAMAS terrorists a billion dollars, but it still wont stop the rockets....

Obama Is Spending $1 Billion Dollars To Aid Palestinian Hamas Terrorists

 

Oh and IRAN pays for everything else America doesnt provide.

 

Obama didn't give Hamas anything at all. Your link doesn't work and neither does the dude who came up with that crap notion.

 

You aren't going to bother passing off that crap anymore ? Just as well.

 

I managed to open it. Here is the text:

Obama Is Spending $1 Billion Dollars To Aid Palestinian Hamas Terrorists
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Today Barack Hussein Obama, the purported savior president of the United States, has done the unthinkable. He has vowed to spend $1 billion dollars in aid to the Muslim terrorists of Palestine. Shock and awe set over Washington DC at this unbelievable offense to America and our ally Israel.

The breaking news just in from Reuters:

The United States plans to offer more than $900 million to help rebuild Gaza…

…the Islamist Hamas movement runs Gaza and remains formally committed to the destruction of the Jewish state…

Clinton’s bid to get “substantial” funds could face an uphill battle in Congress because Hamas continues to rule Gaza and the U.S. focus is on its own souring economy.

So let’s analyze and get this straight. The US is facing the worst economic recession in its history. Good, hardworking Americans are being thrown from their homes, cannot find work, fund their child’s education and are without health care.

Now, suddenly, we have $1 billion to give to the terrorists who attacked defenseless Israeli village with rockets?

Now, we’re going to overcompensate and clean up the mess Israel made when it was forced to defend itself from Hamas in Gaza?

This is outrageous! Obama is funneling money into Palestine, claiming it is not going to aide Hamas, when ALL the money we’re sending is to rebuild the infrastructure of Hamas owned Gaza.

What’s even worse is now these terror people are getting $1 billion stimulus package from YOUR tax money, so they can spend it on food, health care, creating new jobs, buying new rockets to attack Israel and starting the cycle all over again.

This is simply preposterous and it’s very unAmerican. What do good, hardworking Americans have to do this day and age to catch a buck, Obama?

Should we all put on one of those hooded-ninja terror outfits that all Muslim women are forced to wear and shoot rockets at Israel? Will you start giving us back our money then? Do we have to denounce all things that America is supposed to stand for before you will see as as worthy of getting our own money back?

I’m sick and tired of the disloyal lies and deceits of Democrats. They are now selling America out to Persio-Arabian foreigners, probably just to get some oil money promised to their coffers down the road. By giving aid to Palestine, Obama has shown his true color and dark agenda for his administration.

The only hope that we have of not sending this $1 billion dollars of your money to the terror lands of Palestine is Congress. They can vote this bill down, but as you know, Democrats have a majority there too.

I thought when you had a war against terror, you weren’t supposed to rebuild your enemy’s land all back up?

When Saddam was caught plotting against America, Bush stormed in and brought freedom to Iraq. He did not gravel before Saddam and send him tributes of $1 billion, so he could make bigger plots against us.

I’m disgusted and this confirms the warnings we were getting about the suspicious B. Hussein Obama and his democratic minions who are unraveling the good of America.

 

Would you like to back this heavily racist Semite-hating trash with a link?

Here is the news from a non-racist source which conflicts with the heavily racist views of many Zionists:

Following the Obama administration's announcement Friday's announcement to freeze funding to international aid groups in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, an administration official said Sunday the issue had been resolved and funding would continue.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/insideisrael/2011/August/US-Restores-Funding-to-Gaza-Aid-Groups/


Why are do many Zionists seem to be obligated to unconditionally hate Semites for all the wrong reasons?

 

The link was there in BestViewedWithCable's post and I just copied and posted the text as a favour to Moon, who said he could not read it. Read my post, in which I said: "I managed to open it. Here is the text: ...".
Can you follow Judge or are you too obsessed in your mission to root out the semite hating zionists who are heavily racist? Now based on that link - that wasn't mine - I await your typical conclusion telling me that I heavily support and love the semite hating zionists. Rock on baby.

 

Why can't more followers of Israel be honest and simply admit that the funding goes to international aid groups?

Also, why are you heavily supportive and defensive of the need for many Zionists to be misleading and dishonest? What is wrong with Israel being defended with honesty and the truth instead of lies and hate-propaganda?

 

I wonder, why anyone is supportive for Judge's silly over used rhetoric and his love of making no sense what so ever.

Learn english dude and try to comprehend (*)(*)(*)(*). Just saying

 

LOL

as usual?

 

The link is dated March 4, 2009 , the article is unsigned drivel written around an old Reuters report and the site which hosts it is called Christwire. Thank you for openly dumping this garbage on the forum.

 

You said I quoted and supported a link I did not even post. I am awaiting your apology.

 

You said it didn't work and it did, so I copied the text in for you. No worries there.

Everybody can read it, the date etc and decide if it is relevant or not.

No need to keep anything from the forum as we are all thinking adults (I hope) and can sort it out for ourselves.

 

so are you catholic Ezra?

what do you think about the fact that Muslims think more highly of Mary than do most protestants?

 

I am unaware of how they think or regard the Blessed Virgin Mother.

I do not mind Islam. And have no problem with it. I only have a problem when some people like to pretend Muslims have never ever made a mistake in history, only Christians have. Thats just ignorant of history.(and human nature)

 

I have already mentioned it in this thread but you did not respond to it.

Are you sure you don't mind Islam?

You seem somewhat prone to repeat inaccuracies, and your response when abu sina mentioned salahadin was extremely negative (which may well indicate thatyou know nothing of him - although he was generally very highly regarded.

you also seem somewhat inclined to make negative statements about muslims generaly.

you also state that you only have a problem when some people like to pretend Muslims have never ever made a mistake in history, only Christians have.

which people are these?

I don't think anyone here who has argued against the constant demonisation of muslims have ever argued that there have not been muslims who have never been guilty of some of the things that have been alleged, merely that a lot of the arguments are inaccurate, and one sided.

the historical record DOES document that during the crusades the christians were guilty of some pretty heinous crimes. to pretend that isn't so is to deny what happened.

historically there have also been times when muslims have been aggressors, but there have been times when both muslims and christians got on well, for example during the reign of Frederick of sicily, as well as during periods in Al Andalus.

 

If you noticed, I only talked badly about Muslims when Christianity was talked down about and Abu was the one who did it. He/she (i do not know which, not trying to offend) was talking as if the Christians are nothing but barbarians and Muslims are holy angels.

 

ok - abu is a male (I presume from his name) however I think there may have been an element of tongue in cheek there, and irritation as well. from what I have seen, he doesn't seem particularly anti christian.

have you looked atthe number of anti muslim threads on this forum?

just look at those started by Dutch Clog Cyborg as an example.

If I posted the sick articles about murders that happen in the US that appear regularly on msn as if to portray that these are evets are a normal part of US culture, and posters here knew very little about americans, they would assume that americans are a particularly nasty bunch of murderers and child abusers.

You would get pretty sick of me doing that, and you might also start making some pretty negative quips about australians after a while.

you may not be seriously anti australian, just giving what you get. thats what happens.

not sure if this is what was happening with abu - but if I were a muslim - its probably how I would react on this forum at times!

 

I hadn't said anything rude till the slander of Christianity was said.

Other wise I try to be fair. Its a working progress

 

I imagine moon has abandoned the thread after this many posts.

But I wonder where Hamas is getting the food from, given the constant stream of aid into Gaza. I imagine the bottom line here is that if anyone donates to a cause in Gaza, you're just donating to Hamas, who might decided to re-donate it to some people and take the credit for someone elses generosity.

But beyond that, the accusations against Islamic fundamentalists isn't that they can't be generous to those that believe exactly what they do and who obey them. It that they are murderous towards everyone else.

While I have my doubts moon takes his own adivce here. I actually quite like that quote.

 

None of my threads are ' abandoned '. Each will serve as further support for truth and justice at some future point .

So then, you've tried to position yourself as an authority on the motives of Hamas whilst disregarding the party's generosity and humanitarianism in the face of decades of vicious Zionist onslaught . Hardly acceptable credentials. Do you play the bugle ?