Libs, get a clue.It isn't Whites or racism holding Blacks down.

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you tell the truth, this is what you get

    JESSE JACKSON SAYS HE WANTS TO CUT OBAMA’S ‘NUTS OUT’

    July 9, 2008 | 10:35pm

    WASHINGTON – In a vulgar tirade caught on tape by Fox News, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said he wanted to “cut his [Barack Obama's] nuts out” and he accused the fellow Chicagoan of “talking down to black folks” by giving moral lectures to African-Americans, source said Jackson’s shocking quotes were picked up by a hot mic before an interview on health care in Fox’s Chicago studio last Sunday
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bill Cosby is blasted by the Media for saying Blacks need to take responsibility for their actions

    answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080801123823AAgRNWD Cached
    [Aug 1, 2008] Best Answer: Unfortunaly telling some people to get off their butt and take responsibility for their life is considered an insult by many liberals. Had ... ~ by Sammy ( 16 comments )
     
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    Yet black people are an ethnicity for whom every one of them were automatically put into a class lower than the working class and denied services and priviledges all your ancestors enjoyed and benefited from to enable you to take advantage of.

    You keep saying dont blame slavery but do you really know how damaging it was to black people? To their culture, people and identity? To their sense of self?

    If not, then from what do you get the authority?

    And moreover, rather than blaming them shouldnt you be congratulating them on doing as well as theyve done so far? Can you say youd have done better in the same position?

    Sorry to be so pointed but maybe its you who should face a few home truths.

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    Are you black or a decendent of american slaves?
     
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    I benefited from nothing, my dad worked in a tire factory and I worked my way through college. Funny how you claim white men can't understand blacks, yet black guys have it all figured out about whites.

    Then is Africa such a (*)(*)(*)(*)hole? and why do blacks still enslave each other today?


    no, because they haven't done anything, sorry to be so pointed but maybe its you who should face a few home truths.
     
  5. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Slavery ended about a 150 years ago. No Black went through slavery and I won't except that for a reason Blacks won't stay in school, or support their family. Todays Black is far removed from slavery. I doubt many even know who their ancestors were back then. They are as far removed from slavery as most are from Africa. It's time to quit blaming everyone else for their problems and look at their own actions. We lost a half million Whites making up for slavery. We have put out program after program to give Blacks an edge over Whites in jobs and higher education. We made it so they couldn't be denied the same rights other Americans have. Put a welfare program to help those Blacks and others out that couldn't find a job or work. Blacks have been given every advantage I can think of. Some of those advantages are even over Whites. It's time for Blacks and Liberals to take responsibility of their own actions as Obama, Cosby and others have said and quit trying to put the blame on everyone else.
     
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    Stop confusing laws of the land (Drinking while driving) with moral codes. Some states allowed drinking while driving while others did not. Some people obeyed the law and some did not. But it was a personal choice. A moral code is a guideline and not a set of shackles or a Borg Collective implant that forces people to do good.

    Stop confusing abusive figures with moral codes. A moral code tells why you should or should not do something -- for a variety of reasons -- but it's still up to the individual to make decisions. It always comes down to the individual. But -- and here is the thing that seems to escape leftwingers -- sans a moral code then there is little or no incentive for anyone to do anything simply because it's the right thing to do. Why leftwingers collectively WANT our entire culture to be that way . . . is anyone's guess.
     
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    BULL SH&* the left doesnt. Thats exactly why they hand them free Obamaphones and free everything else. The left ilk does this in order to train them and ease them into a lifestyle of entitlements where they become perpetual democrat voters. Are you going to sit there and tell me they let EBT cards be used in strip clubs because they are trying to give them the same oppurtunity as everyone else. NO, they do this to make them comfy in their poor lifestyle choices. Sorry dude total and utter BS. The left has these people like pavlov's dog. Ding......vote democrat get free stuff......Ding vote democrat get a free Obamaphone......Ding vote democrat get EBT cards for lobster and strip clubs. If you wanted to help them you would make entitlements temporary and not a career. For example, give a woman help for her first child, if she decides to go on and have 5 more children she cant afford then she needs to figure out a way to pay for them. That will solve her poor lifestyle choice instantly along with a few million other people which will free up money to be used for people truly in need. I saw the guy in front of me pay for a $3.50 klondike bar with an EBT card. How do I know, I said wow those things are getting expensive, he laughed and said not for me and waved his EBT card in the air. Yeah Im sure that guy is learning a lesson being responsible.
    Also, if you are eating $3.50 klondike bars, eating lobster, going to strip clubs and have a free apartment,smart phone and internet you are not poor, you are taking advantage of the rest of us and living an opulent lifestyle as compared to poor people in other countries who walk fives miles a day to get fresh water.
    Dont you dare sit there and imply I am being dishonest when reality proves you otherwise. If you really wanted to help these people you would have created an environment that enables business to flourish instead of the opposite which is to punish them for making profits as well as making it more cost effective to quit your job in order to get free frign healthcare.
    Someone is being dishonest and IT ISNT ME.
     
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    White folks sure are lucky to have Black folks and self-loathing liberals to tell them that everything in the universe is their fault. Well if it's the fault of Whites and if Blacks are not willing to take ANY responsibility for anything then they effectively are not adults. They are acting like emotions ridden children and therefore need to be told what to do until they are willing to BECOME mature adults. Does that logic work for you?
     
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    Please, you might want to get a clue about 'reality'.
     
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    Boy, I'm tired of your BS and denial.

    You're on ignore.

    Regards.
     
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    The marriage gap is also the main cause of household-based income inequality. The other main cause is professional intermarriage, which only became possible after women starting becoming professionals, so it is ironically social liberalism that has caused both of the main contributors to income inequality.

    So, a single mother's household is making less than two married doctors? Tell me more about how marriage is wrong.
     
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    Republicans refer to them days as "the golden years"

    They think that black people didn't have it as bad as christians did in the medival times...thats how delusional they are...
     
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    That stuff annoys me. Remember when the food stamp programs was for essential food items? What happened to that? They take them at gas stations now. Ever see how expensive that food is? Crazy.

    I was on line at Walmart 2 years back, shaking from the cold soaking wet. (I am a diver). Bleeding from oyster cuts, and tired from working 40+ hour weeks underwater and 20+ more on land getting my business going. I had little cash, and was on line to purchase cereal and a gallon of milk. It was my food for the next 3 days I figured. The Spanish speaking guy with a full shopping cart in front of me was arguing with the cashier over a $17.40 cash balance he owed because some items werent EBT approved. I had to bite my lip to refrain from telling him to "get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of the store and no you can't keep your food either. "
     
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    Those republicans are the ones who ended your Jim Crowe laws. Has there ever been a time in the history of the democrat party when it didnt champion laws that discriminate based on race?

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    You know you made him think when he puts you on ignore.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fine if that's what you want to do. I guess that's better than facing reality. I have been on these discussion boards every since the Iraqi invasion and only put one person on ignore. I'm not afraid at looking and speaking the truth. I don't get on here to insult people, or lie. I have never done that. I won't sit here and let people lie to me or make phony excuses. What happened almost a 150 years ago has nothing to do with how people act today. That's nothing but a cop out.

    I have only been repeating what your own President has said. If you don't believe me, than you don't believe him, Bill Cosby, Colon Powell or many of the other well know Blacks that also see what I see. Making excuses does nothing to fix it and fix it we must if things are to get better and not worse. You and many like you have let the Democratic Party make you believe it not the Black man's fault. It's the racism and how you were enslaved 150 years ago. If your going to make it, you need the Party to keep giving to you because you can't make it on your own. Well yes they can. But not by doing the same stupid things they are doing. Their biggest problem is not being a father to the kids they bring into this world and depending to much on welfare to take care of them and their mother. Kids need a father figure to guide them through life. To teach them right from wrong. To get their butt up and go to school. To keep them from joining gangs and keep them off drugs. That's the main reason crime is so high among Blacks. It's also the reason crime is going up between Whites and Hispanics. It just happens way much more with Blacks. It's damn time we quit lying to Blacks and making excuses for them. It's time we quit blaming Whites for all their problems and racism. If you want to cut down on racism, then cut down on crime. It goes hand in hand. It's not just the color of one's skin. As long as Democrats keep lying to Blacks and Hispanics and only look at them as future Democratic voters, things will only get worse. It's time we told them the truth and try and fix this problem. All races will do better. People lift themselves up being a family and working together. Instill in their children right from wrong.
     
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    Slavery ended but most blacks lives hardly changed for generations afterwards, making necessary a civil right movement in the south.

    Todays blacks are still working class in the main, and working classes are traditionally more prone to educational drop out what ever race they are. Theyve not been given every advantage you can think of, they didnt even have a middle class until the latter quarter of the 20th century. You in the white race had all kinds of far far greater advantages, and yet you whine about blacks.

    It time you stopped beating on blacks and started appreciating them for who they are and what they've done for America despite their terrible circumstances.
     
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    Maybe you didnt but your race did, Your race in america is one the most priviledged in the history of the world.

    Because the continent was split into a few artificial states and exploited by europe for a long time.



    Theyve done tremendously, leave your racial prejudice at the door.
     
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    Fat chance on that happening. How are they supposed to feel better about their crappy lives if they have no-one to blame?
     
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    Spoken like someone with experience? :roll:

    Tell me again how hard life was.....

    better yet, tell me how easy it was for black people to get a nice home before 1964.
     
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    Just because one man got to be president doesn't mean that racism isn't a problem. Try again, but no matter how hard you try, you are never going to understand! I wonder why?
     
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    I was working class as was my whole family. I grew up when there was no welfare. When my Dad broke his leg, us boys had to go out and get jobs doing anything to bring money in to feed the family and pay the bills. We delivered papers, collected scrap metal, mowed laws, anything we could do till dad got on his feet. You only have to look how poor we were. Look at that back door, the pipes coming down to the sink, even a bug on the wall. I know all about growing up poor and no welfare to help us. The place was a dump. But we all made it.

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    Exactly, you are working hard getting by on just the essentials and that guy in front of you like the guy in front of me buying klondike bars is milking us. I would never buy a klondike bar for 3.50 would you? The funny thing is, there is a supermarket right across the street he could have bought a box of klondikes for close to that, but why walk across the street to save money when it isnt your money? Yeah sure they are not tking advantage of the system. Should we post pics of the wal mart people loading up multiple shopping carts during the EBT card glitch. Yeah sure they are responsible people. Sure they are. This crap goes on EVERYWHERE all day every day, I wonder how many hours you were underwater to pay for these peoples EBT strip club lap dance charges.
     
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    No it isn't racism, it's because fathers desert their children and the kids grow up with no direction. We were as poor as any Black family but we made it and we did it because we had a mother and father who taught us right from wrong. Who worked hard and did what we had to to survive. None of us 6 kids ever got in trouble. Dad told us if we ever stole anything, it better be a lot to get us out of town, because he'd kill us if he ever found out. He said if you got a job, you give it a 100% no matter what it paid and if you ever quit it, you do it in such a way they would take you back if you ever had to go back. He also said you don't quit a job unless you had another. That is the stuff fathers do. That's how a family makes it.
     
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    Gas station food is all way overpriced. That is all luxury IMO. Agreed.

    Exactly, no incentive to use the resource wisely.

    They banned EBT in FL strip clubs and casinos now. Got to love that Tea Partier Rick Scott. No more lap dance cash withdrawals or roulette wheels with EBT. On another note though, McDonalds now takes them. I figure the government takes 40%+ from me just like every other worker in the middle class, so about 20 hours underwater near sharp rocks or so.
     
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    What your dad gave you sounds like a lot more value then what the government gives the poor.
     
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