Part 11 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

And you are the press secretary of??
So do you believe in the Holy Bible or not?

I have answer your question that I do believe with my whole heart, soul, and mind in the Holy Bible.
I notice you like to quote Biblical gospels does this mean you believe in the Holy Bible or are you just using your knowledge of the Holy Bible for some other reason?

 

First off, it is not stated in the Bible that the earth is 6000 yrs. old. Secondly God is not in the business of fooling people.

He gave us His message in the Bible without throwing any curve balls at us. Everything is straightforward.

Man is the one who comes up with all kinds of theories of the past that can't be proven, we are the ones who are fooling ourselves.

 

Again God is not in the business of fooling people, we are the ones who are fooling ourselves.

 

Ha? Sorry but your statement is incoherent in my view.

 

Amen to that. That is the 1st thing you got correct.
And Lucifer is keeping that going, wouldn't ya say.

Now if you'd just listen to what folks have been saying to you, you could be saved.

 

We have found an abundance of evidence that corroborates the Great Flood of Noah as an actual event that took place in earth's history. It just that people like you who are non-believers just shrug it off as evidence and deny them. Here is just a few of them.

In Mountains all over the world one can find sea shells and other marine fossils. These include the Sierras, the Swiss Alps, the Himalayas and many more.

Bones of Whales have been found 440 feet above sea level, north of Lake Ontario; a skeleton of another whale was discovered in Vermont, more than 500 feet above sea level; and still another in the Montreal-Quebec area, about 600 feet above sea level.

Extremely large erratic boulders have been transported many miles by some mysterious force, most likely the result of a massive flood that swept over the continents are found all over Europe and North America. There is a boulder that measures 90 by 40 by 38 ft. weighing approx. 10,000 tons located near Conway, New Hampshire. In Warren County, Ohio there's one weighing 13,500 tons that covers 3/4 of an acre.

One of the strongest pieces of evidence for a worldwide flood is the existence of "polystrate fossils." Such fossils are found all over the world. They usually consist of fossil trees that were buried upright, and which often traverse multiple layers of strata such as sandstone, limestone, shale, and even coal beds.

 

There is compelling evidence that humanity and dinosaurs coexisted. But, even if the secular scientific viewpoint that the dinosaurs and humanity were separated by millions/billions of years is true, that would not change the fact that God is the Creator, that we are created in His image, and that we are in need of a Savior.

 

You are in denial of some of the evidence for the Great Flood of Noah.

Has it ever crossed your mind that perhaps the real trickster is satan? satan is full of deception as we learn from reading Scripture.

 

So you have your own personal god? Is he just your own god? Did he reveal himself only to you?

My God is rational and logical. You can read and learn all about Him in the Holy Bible. He is the Christian God, The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit, Almighty God!

 

Why dont you tell us how old the earth is according to your faith Mitt?

 

Is your god the same one in this thread? ""The Atheist 'Pay 50 Shekels for a Rape, Get A Rape' Myth""

The god that thinks women should be raped the rest of their lives to pay for being raped....

'Cause if it is, he's not rational, logical and certainly not loving or compassionate or just...or sane.

 

So compelling you forgot the link?
But it does change how one has to view the bible. At least if they were honest with themselves.

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And he answers in these threads.

 

He has claimed the flood was 7000 yrs ago or less.
So, the world basically was at ground zero 7000 yrs ago.

 

Sorry you're wrong. God's chosen people the ones He freed from captivity in Egypt the Israelites did not sacrifice humans, they sacrificed animals for atonement of their sins.

The Canaanites were a people who performed child sacrifices to their false gods. There were other people who were doing the same thing as these Canaanites who besides committing brutal acts of child sacrifices they also committed many other deviant acts.

That's why God commanded the Israelites to destroy nations such as the Canaanites and others and rightfully so.

 

I have a fossil on my desk at work that is factually older than that so I guess any written text that says the earth is only thousands of years old has lost any and all credibility.

 

Why would that matter? The Bible wasn't written for the purpose of useless info like that.

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And how do you know your fossil is that old?

 

Creationists have it around 6000 years.

I do not believe in a trickster God. It is you that seems to think God sent a flood ( roughly 4200 years ago according the Bible and 7000 years ago according to Mitt) and then covered all traces of this flood, to fool humans.

Once again. A hypothesis is something that has not been proven. Theories are theories because they have been proven.

 

What is incoherent is someone calling something incoherent but not stating why.

 

It matters because I want to know. Is there a reason his faith makes him incapable of answering a simple question? You guys are the ones saying the earth is not as old as we think, so its a fair on point question to ask YOU how old do you think it is and where you got that information. Are you embarrased to state in writing how old you think the earth is?
Also, the fossil on my desk can be accurately and precisely measured by radio carbon dating. A process that has been around for half a century and also a process in which a nobel prize was given. No one to date has been able to disprove the science, in fact it has been independently verified by scientists all over the earth for nearly half a century. You are free to disprove it with your science in fact I recommend it. Nothing would help your argument more than disproving this proven science and showing it to be rife with error and fraudulent verifications.

 

Oh so YOU want to know? I didn't realize you were that important. Who are "you guys"? I don't believe I have ever posted the age of the earth.

Really? So you dated the fossil with this method yourself?

 

If you would research the topic from an objective perspective (real scientists rather than creationists) you would realize that there is solid scientific rational for why we find marine fossils on mountain tops.

Millions of years ago these mountains were underwater and when they rose up the marine fossils went up as well.

Same reason as above. This is not difficult. For a global flood to have occurred there would be a consistent marine zone at the 7000 year old level over the whole earth. It just does not exist.

You mean like at Stonehenge and other paleolithic sites ?

Really ... given that your other "evidence" is not evidence at all, you will need to provide a link explaining why real geologists think this is evidence for a flood.

Oh wait ... real geologists have said no such thing. No link required although provide one if you wish and I will be happy to debunk it for you since you can not seem to be bothered to verify things for yourself.

Hint: You will need to look at something other than creationist websites. You can start here and then click on related links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwywMP4Sxgo&list=PL3415987723C90C9C

Please ... I beg you take a few minutes out of your day to look at a perspective other than the lies handed to you by so called "creation scientists"

 

Great ... I am however not compelled to believe this without evidence.

 

Is there a reason you and Mitt refuse to answer the question? Why are you avoiding it? No I did not test the fossil with this method myself. You tell me the oldest age my fossil can possibly be.
Why are you religious guys embarrased about stating how old your faith says the earth is? Just say it.

 

I have yet to see any evidence that is not either a lie or has a completely logical explanation.

Well ... considering any evidence from science, history, history, and logic can be countered with "The Devil did it" it is no surprise that this is your default position.

Perhaps the Bible itself is full of Satan's deception. Look at all the evil in the world done by Christianity in the name of God, often supported by some Church leader creating dogma based on his interpretation of the Bible.

Judging an organization by what that organization has done throughout history one would think that Satan and Christianity are one in the same.

There are very good arguments that at various times throughout the history of the Church that the Pope is the Anti-Christ.

What I find interesting about Satan is that as per the book of Job God and Satan seem like good buddies or at the least there is no animosity between them.

 

I have heard more than 1 protestant that thinks the anti christ will be a pope.