Part 11 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Well it's not surprising at all. Fossilization is a rare event, requiring, as a rule, sudden burial (as in the flood) to prevent decomposition.

The millions of bison that once roamed the United States of America have left virtually no fossils.

We know from historical reports of lions living in Israel until relatively recently, yet we don't find lion fossils in Israel but this doesn't prevent us from believing the many historical reports of their presence.

So why should it be a surprise that small populations, presumably under migration pressure from competitors and/or predators, and thus living in only one area for a few generations at most, should leave no fossils?

No, you don't know for sure what I suggested is not true, all you can do is deny it to be true. It is not madness to suggest that our continents were shaped as a result of the Great Flood of Noah.

If you have time read in full a plausible reasonable theory of why are our continents are shaped as they are by clicking on the link below.

http://www.understanding-creationism.com/plate-tectonics-theory.html

 

What is crazy is you taking bits and pieces from the full post I presented and then somehow misinterpreting what I'm saying.

I said after the flood (not during the flood) when the waters receded from the land, there had to be land bridges that connected many of the continents because of a lower sea level.

Then I said, years later the glaciers started to melt which resulted in the water level to rise and this caused land bridges to disappear and so now animals that were on these continents would be stuck there.

Again what's really obvious here is that you have an issue with comprehending what you read correctly. No wonder people like you always misinterpret what you read in the Bible.

I said years later, the glaciers started to melt which resulted in the water level to rise. Is English your 2nd language or what?

What?...Aren't you a non-believer in God? You are not making any sense here. Do you believe in God or not? If you don't believe in God then why would you make such a statement?

What's insulting to God is that He gave us intelligence but some of us are not using it properly, like when one can't comprehend simple everyday English. But hey if English is your 2nd language then it explains your confusion in comprehending my post correctly.

Maybe if I post in Spanish you might understand me better...

Quieres que hablarles en español? Es que el mejor para que usted entienda?

 

Only you could think that pictures, one of which is from a film, somehow constitutes proof of your idiotic claim. Please enlighten us how these pictures show that humans are not apes.

PS - The picture on the bottom is a picture of humans in costumes. So... are you tacitly admitting that we are apes?

 

That would be great. I'll keep an eye out for when you start talking good things.

 

Because you're just picking and choosing which parts of a few religions are true, mincing them up, and making a salad out of them. I'm not sure how you can claim that whole books of the Bible are inaccurate, but the parts that you like aren't. That seems to be just wishful thinking. If the vast majority of the Bible is false, then why isn't the rest of it? Because it adheres to your standards of morality?

 

So much for freewill. We had to sin even before we were created. It was forseen.

 

Proof of existence wasn't the issue .
You claimed you had actual pictures of Jesus to prove he existed which is simply not possible.
Even if you had some handy Polaroid shots taken in the time he lived roll: )it doesn't prove it's him.

 

A "misconception" that the bible condones barbarism???
From another thread :

Deut. 22 :

25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[c] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.""



Totally barbaric.

 

When was the Earth created? Ballpark year.

 

Interesting how Free Will is so often contradicted by the Religious. They use "God KNEW those babies would grow up to be evil, so that's why he told the Israelities to kill them all" for things like the infanticide of the Amalekites.....

yet then turn around and say "No, everybody has Free Will. God doesn't know who will be saved and who won't".

then turn around yet again and claim God is "omniscient"....contradicting the second thing they said.

 

The earths temperature is something that fluctuates .. there is nothing new about this. The earth being one land mass 7000 years ago no scientist (other than one who has just escaped from the nuthouse) makes this claim because there is no evidence for it and if it had happened there would be evidence such as that which I suggested previously.

There are no respectable geologists who think the earth was one land mass 7000 years ago or any paleontologists or geologists that have produced one shred of evidence that all the worlds land species were living in Mesopotamia at the time of the flood.

The Bible story is wrong taken literally and probably was not even meant to be taken literally (allegory).

 

What is your point here ? The fact of the matter is that we do not have any evidence of all species of the world living together in Mesopotamia

There are no species native to Australia "period" that have ever been found in Mesopotamia (nor native to any other continent). None ... zero.

We find dinosaur bones from millions of years ago and bones from people who lived in a location. We know the animals they ate for food and what animals they had domesticated.

We have never found evidence of a spectacled bears or kangaroos in Mesopotamia or of any other species. We have never found camel bones from any period 7000 years ago in North America.

There is no geological evidence that this rapid separation of continents happened.

 

There is no true or false in philosophy.
One can gain entry into an enlightened state of compassion believing in a Supreme Being or simply not.
I never said parts are true, i said the nun said the new Testament is accurate. the Nun and others need it to be true for their path.

I actually don't care if Jesus lived or did not live, for me Jesus Christ still is the Emanation of God in Human form..or as i have said as close to possible to that state.


The Message is what is important, the Philosophy of the effect of people believing Him to be True.

i get these quotes from Shambala a publisher of Buddhist doctrine.

this weeks story , you tell me , is it fact or fiction.
It is from a buddhist Sutra which is supposed to be gospel…I mean wow….
We need to come to terms with what exactly philosophy is.
here is

Incarnation: The History and Mysticism of the Tulku Tradition of Tibet by Tulku Thondup, pages 24–25

 

Ah, you got it I didn't think you notice the only time that humans can be apes is if they wear an ape costume excellent observation! They really look for real but even in costume they still don't look like humans they talk like humans but they are still ape in every aspects.
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Probably you missed my other post so here:
Cro-Magno man is believe to be ancestors to Europeans
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Does the Cro-mango man look like an ape or classify to be an ape? No

The Peking-man believe to be ancestors to modern Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, etc.)
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Same thing the Peking-man does not look like or is consider an ape it is also group and identify as human
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This is an ape or great ape
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In fact scientist have no actual fossils of any great ape all they have are imaginative photos of what the great ape might look like do you think this could be the great ape?
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What is good is bad to you. Don't worry I will always shepherd your moves to make sure you don't get lost. You can also tell Lucifer he need more than one of you to keep an eye on me.

So did Jesus Christ appear to you?
Christianity is stronger and getting stronger because of Christians like me, Mitt and others who dose not cowed into silence instead we do the way of God we share His great news, His words and Truth.

So Jesus Christ appeared to you and gave you the authority to judge Christians specially me? Let's see:
1. You don't believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God
2. You don't believe Jesus Christ is God
3. You don't believe in the Holy Bible
4. You don't believe in the Holy Spirit

And you are telling me that God told you to tell me to stop worshipping Him??? You know what I will continue to talk good things about Christianity because I know that it wasn't Jesus Christ who appeared to you. Unless you can prove it can you? I am sure that the Pope would like to know what other stuff God told you.

 

Do you???

 

Nice to know that so we at least agree that God does exist.

Yes, we have actual photos or image of Jesus Christ reconstructed by artist base on eye witness accounts.
John 20:29
Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

Dwight D. Eisenhower knew there will be individuals like you;
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
― Dwight D. Eisenhower

Even if Polaroid cameras or IPHONE were available in Jesus Christ time there will still be individuals that will not believe.

 

Yes definitely I believe in the Holy Bible
Don't you believe in the Holy Bible?

 

Quote Titus 3:2 then.

 

Virtually no fossils = there were some fossils. There are no fossils in North America, or any other continent, none zero nada .. that suggest the earth was one land mass and all the species lived together 7000 years ago.

So what ? This does not explain the complete lack of any fossils (as we have fossils from a great number of species from every continent) from non native species.

A few generations ? Adam to the flood is much more than a few Generations.

It is utter madness to suggest that the continents would have been separated from one land mass to present geography by water. The oceans do not affect tectonics to any significant degree and your article does not claim this.

What your article does state:

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Correct: None that are not deemed mad claim that there was a movement of thousands of miles 7000 years ago.

Exactly ... if there was a sudden movement of the plates due to switching of the magnetic poles or other anomaly the geologic fingerprints would be massive, all over the place, and easily identifiable.

For one, volcanic ash would have covered the entire earth resulting in a very thick layer all over the earth from this event. There is no such thing.
There are other geologic anomalies that would also be present. There are none.

In dating of the ice cores, eruptions of a single volcano are used to correlate the date with other methods.

They find ash in ice cores in certain layers for example. They look at the date of the layer from counting layers.

Wow they say, look at this, the date of this volcano eruption (verified from hundreds of other digs and historical record to this date) is the same as what the ice layer dating gives.

Then, they sample the gas in the ice from that layer. Wow ... radiochemical data also gives the same date.

As with dendrochronology (tree rings), ice core layers are considered very accurate.

They look at the ice core layer they have dated ( say 2000 years ago). That layer is say 20 feet deep. Realizing that the ice core goes on for a mile they go holy hanna ... this is really old.

Some ice cores are hundreds of thousands of years old. Yes, the layers dating can be off by a small margin ( say as much as 5% which is likely high but even call it 10% if you wish)

This means that if the layers tell us the ice core is 250,000 years old .... the youngest it could be is 225,000. To suggest that this core is only 7000 years old is utter madness.

Now not only is there no geological evidence ( and it should be all over the place if this had happened) there is no fossil evidence.

The reason there is no geologic or fossil evidence for this proposed separation of plates 7000 years ago is because it did not happen. +

Yes .. and billions of tons of volcanic ash and dust (probably trillions in a cataclysm such as is proposed) would have left such massive evidence that even a donkey living 1000 years ago could not miss.

This is just absurd.

 

this is the message i always refer to…so many of them in the Holy Bible.

 

Mitt: this is what you said,

Mitt: There is no fossil or geological evidence of a flood. We do not see anything resembling a continuous layer of marine life from 7000 years ago.

If Noah collected all the species from around where he lived because the earth was one land mass, there would be a fossils from non native species found in every continent from that time period. We have found no evidence of this.

The last ice age ended some 12-14000 years ago. There was no ice age after a flood 7000 years ago.

The flood would have melted all if not most of the ice so there would be no ice to melt after the flood,

There was no ice age after any floods that occurred 7000 years ago.

The fact that we have ice cores that date hundreds of thousands of years means that this ice was never impacted by any global flood.

How could there be "lower" sea level after the flood ? where did this water go ? It would have to have turned into ice which we know did not happen 7000 years ago.

What is obvious here is that you have not taken the time to think through the logic of your story.

What glaciers. Where did these glaciers come from if there was no ice age 7000 years ago.

I believe in God ? Just because I believe in God does not mean that I have to deny reality.

I do not worship dogma about God created by man. If you wish to worship the dogma that came down to you from your local pastor that is your choice.

The problem with your perspective is that you have but only one and you worship this perspective as it if is God.

You feel that questioning of your particular perspective is equal to questioning God and the existence of God.

Your belief in God is based on and dependent on every element of your perspective being true. What you have done is effectively put God into a tiny little box. The boundaries of that box consist of a your own very narrow perspective based on dogma likely given to you from your local church or pastor.

For you, the existence of God is dependent upon every element inside that box being true which is why you can not objectively question any of the elements in that box.

You think you have the nature of God figured out. I can not count the number of times you have posted statements ( God is like this or God did that)

Only someone who can not question the nature of God speaks like this. Questioning the existence of God ? That is unthinkable because doing so would risk eternal damnation.

It does not have to be like this. Questioning your particular perspective does not mean God does not exist and it is not questioning God.

The truth shall set you free and the truth is that you really do not know whether your dogma about God is correct or not.

You do not know for sure and there is no way to prove if various passages in the Bible were inspired by God or just a creation of man.

What is scary is that you do not even have the capacity to question whether or not "all" of the Bible is true.

Perhaps more importantly you do not even have the capacity to question whether or not the interpretation of the Bible given to you by a man is true.

You blindly accept and worship this doctrine and call this "faith" Faith in the lord.... as if faith in the Lord has something to do with whether or not an interpretation of scripture is correct or not.

There are many different interpretations of the message of Jesus. We have discussed some of these differences.

You know that the words written in scripture were written by man, translated, copied and so on. What you do not know, whether you admit it to yourself or not, is if all of those words written by man are true.

You can choose to believe that they are true but your choice to believe this does not make them true. You can "have faith in the lord" but faith in the lord does not mean that some of the stories in scripture written by men were not based on an overzealous copyists desire to make that story conform the dogma of the day rather than inspiration.

What is a fact is that so called "inspiration" often = a scribe or editor trying to make the Bible conform to the doctrine of the day.

It was felt that this type of fraud was acceptable towards the greater good of promoting accepted church doctrine.

To be continued

 

Why is that?

How could Jesus be an emanation if he didn't exist?

Why does Truth not have any value to you?

I... don't know why this means anything to you. We can't find any other way to justify compassion than these sorts of fables?

 

Didn't you know? Mitt is the Newest Apostle....God's 21st Century Press Secretary. Self-appointed of course.

 

You don't know Titus 3:2?
Here; 2 to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people.

Matthew 7:
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Here beware if false prophets
Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

John 20:21 Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I am sending you.”

Finally:
Ephesians 6:
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might.
11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.
12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm.
14 Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
15 and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace.
16 In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one;
17 and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God,
18 praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints, 19 and also for me, that words may be given to me in opening my mouth boldly to proclaim the mystery of the gospel,
20 for which I am an ambassador in chains, that I may declare it boldly, as I ought to speak.
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